Cameron Betrays Us

[Dave]

This thread, and olaftab's comment about 'Cameron's dead to me now even though I don't like millipede', got a mention in the Independent today!

Good spot

Aston Villa fans took to social media to complain. A person called olaftab said on the “Cameron betrays us” thread on the Heroes & Villains Aston Villa fanzine site that Mr Cameron is “dead to me now even though I didn’t like millipede [Ed Miliband]”.

[TopDeck113]

Thanks for that.  Although the way it reads suggests that the journalist probably doesn't quite understand the humorous intent in olaftab's post!

[OzVilla]

This thread, and olaftab's comment about 'Cameron's dead to me now even though I don't like millipede', got a mention in the Independent today!

Good spot

Aston Villa fans took to social media to complain. A person called olaftab said on the “Cameron betrays us” thread on the Heroes & Villains Aston Villa fanzine site that Mr Cameron is “dead to me now even though I didn’t like millipede [Ed Miliband]”.

Fantastic, brilliant quote too.  Bit rich of Blair's spin doctor to call anyone else "phoney" though.

[Risso]

This isn't a political thread and I don't want to turn it into one. But if you truly believe that Labour is what it once represented then I'm sorry it isn't. It's possible to agree with views from all political parties. Same goes for in the U.S. or Canada where I live. It's when you get stuck on everything that one party says is wrong then nothing improves and we all get stuck in our ways. I'm sure there's loads of things the Conservatives do that I wouldn't agree with, but that's not to say Labour made everything better while they were in power for a long time. It's one thing if you believe in the core values of socialism and what it once represented but even then it's not like Lenin lived amongst the people in the same condition as those he represented. There's plenty of well off Labour who would like to keep it that way.

And I have no idea how the Tory's and football throughout history relates to one man's support of a football team.

Ok then, if he is such a fan why not mention it prior to his bid to be PM? Why publicly state that he had no interest in the game and then directly contradict this statement? Why didn't he know when the team he claimed to support had it's finest hour?

If you believe him, good for you. I'm a bit more cynical, and given the evidence I believe I'm entitled to be so.

Interview trying to ask him questions about Villa. Spoiler alert he's unable to name the scorer of the winning European Cup goal

https://screen.yahoo.com/sky-news-latest/david-cameron-admits-not-game-125009798.html

Jesus.  Who on earth is running their election campaign?  He made a huge mistake yesterday, and he should have been up all night revising a few keys facts so that he didn't go and make things worse.   In as much as he's a football fan at all (i.e. not much) I do believe he's a Villa fan, but that's in the same way that say, Zoe Ball is a Man Utd fan.  I think this is akin to Gordon Brown insulting that old lady, in that it exposes his pretensions about being an ordinary bloke.  All he really had to do in this campaign is to be seen to be a better bet than Ed Miliband, which on the face of it shouldn't have been that hard, but with all of the nonsense over the leaders' debates, and now claretandbluegate, he's made a right pig's ear of it.

[E I Adio]

I was going to write something very similar, Nev.  The 1945 Labour Government is, in my mind, the greatest administration in British history for attempting to right centuries of wrongs meted out to the majority of the population of these islands - and the NHS, despite its many imperfections remains the Labour Party's greatest legacy.   

I would also add that whilst Cameron has said very positive things about the NHS with regard to the treatment his late son received, one knows full well that should push come to shove in terms of making deep and brutal cuts through which lobby he would walk.  Why?  Because he always could - and always will - be able to afford the alternative option.

The NHS is still a party political football. The future of the NHS in its present form - free at the point of delivery etc... would be very unsafe given another 5 years of the Tories. Their deliberate lack of funding during the last 5 years is responsible for the present difficulties and is merely the forerunner to an acceleration in privatisation that will benefit a handful of healthcare companies and their shareholders (see Tory Peers register of interests) and not the patients.

[dave.woodhall]

Can we keep the rest of the election out of here please? There's a perfectly good thread about it in Off Topic.

[aj2k77]

Surely no true Villa fan will vote for the Tories now?

[Nev]

Surely no true Villa fan will vote for the Tories now?

No football fan should ever vote Tory.

[olaftab]

Thanks for that.  Although the way it reads suggests that the journalist probably doesn't quite understand the humorous intent in olaftab's post!

No neither my post nor this thread..
Can't believe after that comment this morning he didn't know the year and just said " in the early eighties"! You would have thought he might have had looked at wiki last night.

[aj2k77]

Surely no true Villa fan will vote for the Tories now?

No football fan should ever vote Tory.

Love Villa Hate Cameron.

That's my next tattoo.

[Toronto Villa]

Toronto Villa is clearly a devious troll.

Not a chance anyone could possibly be so spectacularly wrong about something as this.

Excuse me. What did you call me?

[Richard E]

Thanks for that.  Although the way it reads suggests that the journalist probably doesn't quite understand the humorous intent in olaftab's post!

They also seem to be under the impression we won the European Cup 24 years ago rather than 33!

[IFWaters]

What do all the socialists on here think of Lord Janner ? Does he qualify as a c**t as well or not because he isn't a Tory ?

By the way I really think its sad that in our society having a different political view qualifies you to be abused like this. Would you say that to someone's face ?

[aj2k77]

What do all the socialists on here think of Lord Janner ? Does he qualify as a c**t as well or not because he isn't a Tory ?

By the way I really think its sad that in our society having a different political view qualifies you to be abused like this. Would you say that to someone's face ?

Does he get Villa confused with West Ham? If he does... he's a ******!

[robbo1874]

If you think that's bad, have a read of this...

http://www.charlesbarwell.com/portal/component/content/article/35/85-aston-villa-former-players-association-golf-day

Maybe it's a Tory thing.

Must've missed your point Dave. Are you saying you shouldn't support Villa if you're a conservative (I'm not, by the way). Or, is it that Tories as villa fans are not as good as non-Tory supporters. Yes these people are twats, but if they have a connection or a genuine affection for the club then who is anybody else to judge them as a supporter. Big if, I know, the cynic in me questions their genuine support - ie are they just saying it for popularity or to try and claim some non-existent connection with most people who love football. Maybe they do, maybe they don't - but if you're a genuine villa fan, that is not to say necessarily someone who goes home and away every week, but supports the club, then isnt that enough to not have to have everyone having a pop at you?

Did you miss the bit about Chris Nicholl scoring four goals in the League Cup final against Leicester, the fourth from forty yards?

yes I did. He didn't say it was the final though. People get their facts wrong from time to time - big deal.