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Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2015, 03:19:38 PM »
Cameron's an arse wipe. Why doesn't he just say he prefers tennis and favourite players were e.g. Edberg and Henman?

Nouveau Bollockhead.

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2015, 03:28:21 PM »
This isn't a political thread and I don't want to turn it into one. But if you truly believe that Labour is what it once represented then I'm sorry it isn't. It's possible to agree with views from all political parties. Same goes for in the U.S. or Canada where I live. It's when you get stuck on everything that one party says is wrong then nothing improves and we all get stuck in our ways. I'm sure there's loads of things the Conservatives do that I wouldn't agree with, but that's not to say Labour made everything better while they were in power for a long time. It's one thing if you believe in the core values of socialism and what it once represented but even then it's not like Lenin lived amongst the people in the same condition as those he represented. There's plenty of well off Labour who would like to keep it that way.

And I have no idea how the Tory's and football throughout history relates to one man's support of a football team.

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2015, 03:35:03 PM »
This isn't a political thread and I don't want to turn it into one. But if you truly believe that Labour is what it once represented then I'm sorry it isn't. It's possible to agree with views from all political parties. Same goes for in the U.S. or Canada where I live. It's when you get stuck on everything that one party says is wrong then nothing improves and we all get stuck in our ways. I'm sure there's loads of things the Conservatives do that I wouldn't agree with, but that's not to say Labour made everything better while they were in power for a long time. It's one thing if you believe in the core values of socialism and what it once represented but even then it's not like Lenin lived amongst the people in the same condition as those he represented. There's plenty of well off Labour who would like to keep it that way.

And I have no idea how the Tory's and football throughout history relates to one man's support of a football team.

Ok then, if he is such a fan why not mention it prior to his bid to be PM? Why publicly state that he had no interest in the game and then directly contradict this statement? Why didn't he know when the team he claimed to support had it's finest hour?

If you believe him, good for you. I'm a bit more cynical, and given the evidence I believe I'm entitled to be so.

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2015, 03:43:16 PM »
This isn't a political thread and I don't want to turn it into one. But if you truly believe that Labour is what it once represented then I'm sorry it isn't. It's possible to agree with views from all political parties. Same goes for in the U.S. or Canada where I live. It's when you get stuck on everything that one party says is wrong then nothing improves and we all get stuck in our ways. I'm sure there's loads of things the Conservatives do that I wouldn't agree with, but that's not to say Labour made everything better while they were in power for a long time. It's one thing if you believe in the core values of socialism and what it once represented but even then it's not like Lenin lived amongst the people in the same condition as those he represented. There's plenty of well off Labour who would like to keep it that way.

And I have no idea how the Tory's and football throughout history relates to one man's support of a football team.

Ok then, if he is such a fan why not mention it prior to his bid to be PM? Why publicly state that he had no interest in the game and then directly contradict this statement? Why didn't he know when the team he claimed to support had it's finest hour?

If you believe him, good for you. I'm a bit more cynical, and given the evidence I believe I'm entitled to be so.

Interview trying to ask him questions about Villa. Spoiler alert he's unable to name the scorer of the winning European Cup goal

https://screen.yahoo.com/sky-news-latest/david-cameron-admits-not-game-125009798.html

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2015, 03:44:27 PM »
So Nev what you suggesting Cameron is a glory hunter by following Villa? Because that would be funny. Who cares when he revealed he liked us?

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2015, 03:46:18 PM »
Just because Labour aren't really true Labour any more doesn't mean that Cameron isn't a c**t

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2015, 03:47:28 PM »
Blimey what a nothing story

It self-evidently is a something story.  Currently 4th most read on the BBC.

Two reasons I can think of - this has been an incredibly stage managed campaign.  Particularly by the Tories, but also by Labour.  They've given very little away, so a rare gaffe like this is manna from heaven for starving journos.  And ask anyone want they want from a politician, and 'authenticity' will be close to the top of the list.  It's basic, you need it to know who and what you're voting for.  The perception of politicians is that they're not genuine, not authentic.  And here he is proving it, the twat.

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2015, 03:53:05 PM »
So Nev what you suggesting Cameron is a glory hunter by following Villa? Because that would be funny. Who cares when he revealed he liked us?

No, I believe his advisors thought it may help his image, make him seem less aloof and upper class, for him to be portrayed as a football fan, as far as a club is concerned the family link helped in that respect. Chelsea or Man Utd would be too obvious. At best, it's disingenuous.

I believe the same is true where Prince William is concerned, although I have absolutely no evidence on that one.

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2015, 03:56:15 PM »
Ok he's a ****** and every other word to describe the worst people on the planet. I can't be arsed fighting this one.

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2015, 03:57:53 PM »
So Nev what you suggesting Cameron is a glory hunter by following Villa? Because that would be funny. Who cares when he revealed he liked us?

No, I believe his advisors thought it may help his image, make him seem less aloof and upper class, for him to be portrayed as a football fan, as far as a club is concerned the family link helped in that respect. Chelsea or Man Utd would be too obvious. At best, it's disingenuous.

I believe the same is true where Prince William is concerned, although I have absolutely no evidence on that one.

Surely if that was true it would have helped his image more to support a non league team or League 2 and not one with a billionaire owner in the PL.

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2015, 03:57:55 PM »
Shouldn't words like c*** be reserved for murderers, rapists and pedophiles? As opposed to the leader of the Conservative party. Doesn't make him the anti Christ. He just holds a different view politically to most of us. And he supports Villa. I don't see what the issue is with that either. I'm sure we have loads of fans with varying views on just about everything. As long as those views aren't illegal, then jump on board and they can all enjoy the ride.

Fair enough, but holding a politically different view is not quite the same as dreaming them up and implementing them as law to the detriment of mainly the poorest people in our society.

And he 'supports' Villa? Really?

Yes because Tony Blair was the greatest supporter of the common man wasn't he. Sorry but if you think true socialism exists then you're kidding yourself.

And what can't he support Villa. What is so completely outrageous about that? I've said this before but think of the pelters he'd be getting if came out and said he followed Chelsea or Man U? What's he got to gain by saying he likes us?

No, Tony Blair was indeed a Tory prick in all but name, but to get back to my point, a layman who holds a political view is not the same as someone who has the power to implement his political view whatever it might be.

As for his claim of supporting the Villa, I must say that I've not noticed him at Villa Park recently, or come to think of it, ever. But then I'm a bit forgetful. As far as his speech is concerned, his gaff proved that either he is not a football supporter of any hue, or else his brain is so addled that he can't actually remember who he does support.

Offline Diablo

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2015, 04:02:18 PM »
So Nev what you suggesting Cameron is a glory hunter by following Villa? Because that would be funny. Who cares when he revealed he liked us?

No, I believe his advisors thought it may help his image, make him seem less aloof and upper class, for him to be portrayed as a football fan, as far as a club is concerned the family link helped in that respect. Chelsea or Man Utd would be too obvious. At best, it's disingenuous.

I believe the same is true where Prince William is concerned, although I have absolutely no evidence on that one.

Surely if that was true it would have helped his image more to support a non league team or League 2 and not one with a billionaire owner in the PL.

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2010/12/england-2018-bid-trump-card-david-cameron-doesnt-even-like-football/

David Cameron has been hailed as one of the Three Lions, whose participation in the England 2018 World Cup bid presentation has given the English bid the edge going into the vote. But while David Beckham is one of England’s greatest ever players and Prince William is the president of the FA, it turns out Cameron doesn’t even like football.



Thanks to Hansard, a Parliamentary speech made by Cameron in 2001 has come to light. The future PM admits he is not a football fan.

He told the House of Commons: “Many of those who have spoken in the debate or have written about the subject are either lawyers or football fans, but I have to confess that I am neither: I am just a novice parliamentarian who is trying to work out whether the draconian powers in the Bill are really necessary.”



In his presentation this morning, the Prime Minister made a point of praising the effectiveness of the British police. Back then he wondered: “Are the police using all the possible intelligence to follow hooligans and to share information with other police forces? Are they doing everything to help the French, Dutch and Belgian police forces to arrest people in those countries instead of Parliament giving our police service more powers?”

Via They Work For You





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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2015, 04:02:43 PM »
This isn't a political thread and I don't want to turn it into one. But if you truly believe that Labour is what it once represented then I'm sorry it isn't. It's possible to agree with views from all political parties. Same goes for in the U.S. or Canada where I live. It's when you get stuck on everything that one party says is wrong then nothing improves and we all get stuck in our ways. I'm sure there's loads of things the Conservatives do that I wouldn't agree with, but that's not to say Labour made everything better while they were in power for a long time. It's one thing if you believe in the core values of socialism and what it once represented but even then it's not like Lenin lived amongst the people in the same condition as those he represented. There's plenty of well off Labour who would like to keep it that way.

And I have no idea how the Tory's and football throughout history relates to one man's support of a football team.

Nobody mentioned the Labour Party until you did.

Offline Rupert

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2015, 04:05:56 PM »
can i have his ticket now he,s not one of us anymore the wanker

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Cameron Betrays Us
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2015, 04:11:06 PM »
He's hardly the first person to have little interest in football but when asked would say they want xyz club to do well or that's their club. Over the years I've known loads like that. And most would want xyz to do well for family. It's not like he claims to be a Villa diehard who used to rock up to VP for Simod Cup games.

 


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