Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[hilts_coolerking]

Cole

I had totally forgotten about him.  What a master stroke that signing was.

[aj2k77]

Can we not just try Gil and Sinclair off Benteke? Why has it always got to be dumb and dumber making appearances? If I see another Weimann shot when he's leaning back balloon 50 ft over the bar before I'm 50 it will be a day too soon.

[Tom_Mc9?]

Is that seven defeats in a row  now?

Don't worry,  some on here think we'll get another 10-15 points easy.

The rest of us are bedwetters apparently.  Someone said on the match thread "We'll batter these second half."  It's just chest-beating bullshit rhetoric.  We're shit and any side - absolutely any side - would fancy their chances against us.

I don't think it's 'chest-beating bullshit.' I think Newcastle were genuinely pretty bad and people thought that Aston Villa should batter them. They were right: we should, normally. It's hard to acclimatise to our current levels of shitness though.

[curlytailavfc]

dire football dire players dire owner dire straights

[Deano's Mullet]

Midfield is non existent. Milner Petrov Downing  Reo-Coker Young in 2010. Now all we have is shit.

[hilts_coolerking]

I don't think it's 'chest-beating bullshit.' I think Newcastle were genuinely pretty bad and people thought that Aston Villa should batter them. They were right: we should, normally. It's hard to acclimatise to our current levels of shitness though.

What do you mean 'normally'?  'Normally' we're shit.  And have been for at least three seasons.  We're absolutely kidding ourselves if we think we're going to batter anyone.

[Rudy65]

How good/plentiful are streams for the Championship? Asking for a friend.

God knows, but I wont be watching anyway

[SamTheMouse]

I'd also say that, although I don't really blame Sherwood for the last couple of results, you have to seriously question Lerner and Fox's brains to

1. Leave it so very late to sack Lambert in the first place.
2. Replace him with a rookie manager with no track record of motivating players in a desperately struggling side.

How on earth did they think that was going to pan out?

These people have noble intentions (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that, anyway), and Fox might be great at getting sponsorship deals and whatnot, but they have zero "nous", absolutely zero.

Good luck flogging that shirt sponsorship in the Championship next year, Tom. Oh, and good luck flogging the club, too, Lerner.

Number 1 is really the biggy. Dumb as nuts to think there was any hope of Lambert turning it around.

I don't think Sherwood is wholly responsible for these two defeats - it's 7 in a row, not 2 in a row. However, I don't think his tactics have helped. Today, even when we were playing well, we looked ramshackle and shapeless. You can't help but compare it to how quickly someone like Pulis gets his teams organised and competent.

Some of us were roundly ridiculed for suggesting Pulis would be a good idea. I stand by my belief that he was the sensible option if avoiding relegation was the extent of our short-term ambitions. Which, given how things look right now, it fecking well should have been.

[curiousorange]

I can only assume that Agbonlahor in training looks like Leo Messi, because there is nothing - absolutely nothing - to keep him in the team based on his performances.

[passitsideways]

The only thing I'm clinging to is that we're still (!!!!!) level on points with QPR in 17th. The moment that 17th placed team moves to three points above us, it's done and done.

[aj2k77]

What Delph, Cleverley and Westwood do as a three can be done by one decent player. Westwood passes sideways, Cleverley runs a bit and Delph from time to time puts in a tackle and moves forward.

[aj2k77]

I can only assume that Agbonlahor in training looks like Leo Messi, because there is nothing - absolutely nothing - to keep him in the team based on his performances.

Gabby looks and plays like he's been hit over the head with a sledge hammer.

[hilts_coolerking]

I can only assume that Agbonlahor in training looks like Leo Messi, because there is nothing - absolutely nothing - to keep him in the team based on his performances.

There was a moment in the second half when he ran half the length of the pitch to clatter one of their players and get a yellow card.  It was his only burst of pace in the whole game.

[curiousorange]

And what happened to all of this 'build the team around Benteke' theory when Sherwood took over? As far as I'm concerned, I don't want to see Benteke further back than the apex of the D on the penalty area. Let everybody else get the ball to him. Whatever it takes, get him to score. I don't care if you start with a rush-back goalie, get him a proper chance, and keep doing it.

[brontebilly]

Cole

I had totally forgotten about him.  What a master stroke that signing was.

Another season left on the payroll though, he perfects the hands on hips routine I'll give him that. Maybe he can help train a squad of cheerleaders next season. Going to need some extra entertainment to get punters through the gates at Villa Park next season.