Newcastle United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Fin Feds Dad]

Lerner made the change too late. Failing to beat Sunderland and Palace, and losing to Leicester, cost us dearly. He should have changed it before Christmas. I truly don't know whether Sherwood is any good or not, but he hasn't been given enough games to change us - I'm surprised he took the gig tbh. Other teams losing means we aren't cast adrift but we simply can't score. Really think we're down now.

Missing out on Pulis will ultimately kill us. West Brom conversely will stay up comfortably. Back when he took them over they looked woeful. The switcharound has been painful to watch.

Spot on - I am absolutely convinced there was a clause in Mr Mumbles contract that said we could get rid with a lower payoff if we dropped in to the bottom 3 .

Happened against Hull - he was gone the next day.

Penny pinching of a few million will cost this club millions and millions for the years we are down.

Wankers.

[SamTheMouse]

Timmy's win percentage is taking a bit of a pasting, isn't it?

[pauliewalnuts]

I'd also say that, although I don't really blame Sherwood for the last couple of results, you have to seriously question Lerner and Fox's brains to

1. Leave it so very late to sack Lambert in the first place.
2. Replace him with a rookie manager with no track record of motivating players in a desperately struggling side.

How on earth did they think that was going to pan out?

These people have noble intentions (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that, anyway), and Fox might be great at getting sponsorship deals and whatnot, but they have zero "nous", absolutely zero.

Good luck flogging that shirt sponsorship in the Championship next year, Tom. Oh, and good luck flogging the club, too, Lerner.

[hilts_coolerking]

Is that seven defeats in a row  now?

Don't worry,  some on here think we'll get another 10-15 points easy.

The rest of us are bedwetters apparently.  Someone said on the match thread "We'll batter these second half."  It's just chest-beating bullshit rhetoric.  We're shit and any side - absolutely any side - would fancy their chances against us.

[Villafirst]

Gil was a breath of fresh air....seems like he's succumbed like the rest. Didn't take long.....

[SamTheMouse]

Gabby and Weimann both got a good go, again, and they were both as shit as last week. Gil nowhere, even though he and Sinclair have been all we've got since January.

Gabby and Weimann would struggle to stand out in the Championship. If we do end up there, we'll need better players than them up front to get out of it.

[aj2k77]

Senderos and Cole..... I know they haven't played today and I'm in a bad mood now but these two fucking leeches signing, another example of why we are where we are. History of being injured all the time, told they are past it. We sign them, they are always injured and we are shovelling some more millions out of the club and in to players pockets who contribute nothing.

Stupid decisions, every where, all the time, repeated over and over.

[brontebilly]

Does anyone seriously think we have a squad capable of bouncing back up if we drop? We are fucking dire and think some of them are playing 2 divisions above their level of ability.

I dont what would our squad realistically be - Given, Hutton,Lowton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho, Bacuna, Westwood, Sanchez, Cole, Gabby, Weimann, Grealish, Nzogbia, Senderos, Baker, Gil, Richardson, Gardner - no goal threat in that squad and a collection of characters that are going nowhere career wise the most of them. We would be a soft touch in the second division.

[kippaxvilla2]

Lets see if the cnuts are clinking bottles on the coach tweeting job done at the end of this season.  Wankers.

[Nelly]

We don't play like a team at all for me. There's very little cohesion and we seem to play like a group of individuals trying to make something happen, rather than a team with a good understanding of each other.

I've always defended Lerner and argued that he is naive rather than spiteful, and have been willing to be patient with whoever the management is at Villa, but if they somehow conspire to relegate Aston Villa FC, they would deserve the abuse and hatred they would get.

[hilts_coolerking]

Gabby and Weimann both got a good go, again, and they were both as shit as last week. Gil nowhere, even though he and Sinclair have been all we've got since January.

That's the thing: we've mostly still got the players who've been substandard for a long time now.  Sinclair and Gil won't be enough to save us.  Cleverley quite plainly won't.

[Monty]

I'd also say that, although I don't really blame Sherwood for the last couple of results, you have to seriously question Lerner and Fox's brains to

1. Leave it so very late to sack Lambert in the first place.
2. Replace him with a rookie manager with no track record of motivating players in a desperately struggling side.

How on earth did they think that was going to pan out?

These people have noble intentions (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that, anyway), and Fox might be great at getting sponsorship deals and whatnot, but they have zero "nous", absolutely zero.

Good luck flogging that shirt sponsorship in the Championship next year, Tom. Oh, and good luck flogging the club, too, Lerner.

Number 1 is really the biggy. Dumb as nuts to think there was any hope of Lambert turning it around.

I don't think Sherwood is wholly responsible for these two defeats - it's 7 in a row, not 2 in a row. However, I don't think his tactics have helped. Today, even when we were playing well, we looked ramshackle and shapeless. You can't help but compare it to how quickly someone like Pulis gets his teams organised and competent.

[Tony Erdington]

lerner knows f@ck all

my only positive, his loosing dough

[not3bad]

Just been shoved by a very grumpy fat man in a black & white tie. Mardy bastard.  Anyway, that's why we're going down, that's why we're going down...

[Nastylee]

Said all along that if we get to 10pm on Tuesday without a win then it's definitely curtains. It's WBA or bust now. Only saving grace today was the other results went our way. Burnley would have backed themselves to beat Swansea.