Aston Villa vs Stoke Post Match Thread

[ez]

We don't have any set plan for corners do we. It's just do whatever you think at the time.

[AlexAlexCropley]

I despair.I would drop gabby, benteke, weimann, CissOkho, Delph.Put in a.n.other that gives a fuck, and go down with some semblance of caring.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Only a complete bunch of morons would keep playing balls in the air to players - who hadn't won an aerial challenge all game .

Only a complete bunch of morons would play every single corner the same way - straight into the keepers hands or for a stoke player to head away.

Unfortunately our side is currently overrun with complete fucking morons .

We got nowhere near Nzonzi all day - why not change to 3-5-2 and get an extra player in midfield to sit on him ?

Why not play the ball on the floor into the channels ?

And Gabby - if you ever wear a villa shirt again it will be too soon .

[PaulWinch again]

What really fucked me off is the amount of we'd fail to even attempt a cross when having the ball wide in the final third, pass it all the way back to defenders or Guzan for them to promptly hoof it into the box. Fucking put the ball in the box when there's men in the box, not when everyone has left it. It's fucking basic stuff you cock sockets.

That's why I'd play Lowton wide right. If he doesn't have to defend he's a good player and can cross.

[Malandro]

Well I feel sick to the stomach with today's game.

Let's hope the whiteness of others keeps us up once more.

[hipkiss92]

I'm looking at the table right now! We're top!



We needed the famous bounce today. But our dead cat just went splat.

New manager bounce is possibly football's biggest myth. Nothing more than under performing teams returning to their natural level. Unfortunately we've been performing at about our level all season, so there's no natural upturn in results to be expected.

[Dominic22]

We are just awful, I missed the game due to being away for half term so watched here.

I am not quite sure where to start. Those of us who have travelled and seen every team against us will tell you we are the worst team we have seen all year, week after week. We have deserved to go down for many a season now and this is just the culmination of those years.

I am not sure Sherwood is a good fit long term as he will throw his toys out one too many times and be gone but really the board could care less about the 3 year contract it was all about an immediate bounce to stay up this year.

Gabby has been my pet hate for a few seasons now, he is a total chancer who has played well for a 15 minute spell every 8 games or so, misses multiple games a year with "injuries" and can sniff a manager in trouble so goes through the motions because it will always be someone elses fault. Him under Mcleish should have been enough to get rid of him but he survived another manager or 2 or 3 and still produces nothing.

The club bloods a CEO with no experience then when he gets experience gets rid and gets another with no experience to make a managerial appointment in a 48 hour window. The Owner is hiding under his desk in New York as the pressure is on from his family and trustees of the money. It is a lot easier to avoid all this when you are 4000 miles away and can switch and watch the simpsons instead.

We really are a mess, with some fantastic people in the club and community but completely disfunctional where it really matters on the pitch and particularly in the board room.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

I can imagine Sherwood getting home tonight, closing the door behind him and thinking/saying "oh, fuck, what have I done...".

Hopefully he'll have learnt quickly from this. Who is shite and who is less shite.

After last weeks result, maybe he should've gone with the team that turned it around 2nd half? Hindsight's a wonderful thing though...

[Steve67]

Really worried about us but wouldn't be surprised if we go and win at the bar codes next week. That said, we cant keep saying that our next few games are winnable because we just ain't winning. Take each game as it comes.

[hilts_coolerking]

The tactics were bad. You don't need six months to not hoof the ball aimlessly at two defenders with a combined height of 13 feet.

Okay, you don't like 442, we get that already.

I didn't mention 4-4-2 in that post. It was about the long balls. Address my points, for goodness' sake.

This isn't about long balls though is it?  The point you've been making all day - and have done since time began - is that you don't like 442.  In that sense it doesn't matter who delivers it or how well it is implemented.  Buddha, Lester Pigott, Scooby Doo or Eddie Cochran could be in the dugout but if they played 442 you wouldn't rate it or them.  You appear blind to the possibility that it can and does work  As with any system it relies on good players playing well; we don't have enough good players and most of the players we do have aren't playing well.  We don't have the time or the players to try anything other than football at its most basic.  Like I said earlier, Sherwood has to go with the method he most believes in and which he thinks will get us the most points, rather than to achieve some theoretical aesthetic nirvana.

[Holte L2]

Some radical changes needed now.

Next week I'd go as follows.

Given in for Guzan

Okore in for Vlaar

Cleverley in for Sanchez

Weimann in for Gabby

Bacuna for Gil.

Fuck me this is desperate.

Only Okore for Vlaar I would consider from those.

Really? Sanchez, and Gil were appalling. Bacuna looked lively last week and looked capable of creating chances.

[olaftab]

We didn't deserve to win today but no way we deserved to lose it. Having said teams who get relegated are not only bad teams they are unlucky teams. We were unlucky in terms of timing for both goals and incompetent. For the first time in 4/5 seasons of struggle I am starting to think that we will go down.😒

[Malandro]

Well I feel sick to the stomach with today's game.

Let's hope the whiteness of others keeps us up once more.

Shiteness I meant

[steamer]

Calm heads
30+ points to play for.
New manager has had a chance to look at what he has inherited.
Needs to make his choices, he is the only hope we have , so lets support him.

[Tuscans]

The tactics were bad. You don't need six months to not hoof the ball aimlessly at two defenders with a combined height of 13 feet.

Okay, you don't like 442, we get that already.

I didn't mention 4-4-2 in that post. It was about the long balls. Address my points, for goodness' sake.

This isn't about long balls though is it?  The point you've been making all day - and have done since time began - is that you don't like 442.  In that sense it doesn't matter who delivers it or how well it is implemented.  Buddha, Lester Pigott, Scooby Doo or Eddie Cochran could be in the dugout but if they played 442 you wouldn't rate it or them.  You appear blind to the possibility that it can and does work  As with any system it relies on good players playing well; we don't have enough good players and most of the players we do have aren't playing well.  We don't have the time or the players to try anything other than football at its most basic.  Like I said earlier, Sherwood has to go with the method he most believes in and which he thinks will get us the most points, rather than to achieve some theoretical aesthetic nirvana.

City playing 4-4-2 v Newcastle...and Colback picks up his 10th yellow, misses game against us