Aston Villa vs Stoke Post Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

Just got home. Not bad for the first half an hour, utter wank after that. Not helped by the odd time we did do anything useful the crosses were gash, from open play and set pieces. Gabby and Sanchez were woeful. Benteke not much better but it's hard for him to do anything good or bad when he never has the fucking ball.
Sinclair, Hutton and Clark my only real plus points from the game.

And Vlaar, I won't miss you when you leave. Sheer fucking amateurish stupidity. Twat.

[silhillvilla]

Newcastle will be foaming at the mouth for next week. They owe us a relegation.

[Gregorys Boy]

Some radical changes needed now.

Next week I'd go as follows.

Given in for Guzan

Okore in for Vlaar

Cleverley in for Sanchez

Weimann in for Gabby

Bacuna for Gil.

Fuck me this is desperate.

Only Okore for Vlaar I would consider from those.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Really, firing him in December would have been the best time. It would have given the new manager a month of prep, a month for the transfer window and we'd be much better off now. Well theoretically anyway. All ifs and buts off course.

Hopefully one day we'll eventually learn and fire our managers at the end of the season. Lambert certainly didn't deserve another season and yes, I know what you're thinking.. TSM.

The other point I guess we will reflect on later is that with Fox coming in in late October, having never held a CEO job before, it was always unlikely he'd fire Lambert a few weeks into his new job. It really was a perfect storm.

[Monty]

He has that excuse, but it doesn't mean his tactics today were much cop. Clearly, the total lack of confidence and imagination in the second half is a Lambert-era problem, but the long balls - famously absent for most of the season (and to no success) - returned, and looked about as effective as trebuchet launching balloons at a castle.

I think you need to give him a bit more time before judging him.

The tactics were bad. You don't need six months to not hoof the ball aimlessly at two defenders with a combined height of 13 feet.

[usav]

We won't go again:

"I am bitterly disappointed. I didn't think we deserved to lose the game but we didn't do enough to win it. We have to go and do a job and forget any anxiety.
"It will be a work in progress, there is a lot of work to be done and I've told the lads that. We have to brave and get on the ball.
"There is no point in me getting a big stick out and banging them on the head with it. It is about me getting the best out of them for the remaining games.
"We will improve. It is a very short amount of time to get instructions into them but we will get better and we need to keep this great club in the Premier League. We are not thinking about going down."

[Gregorys Boy]

He has that excuse, but it doesn't mean his tactics today were much cop. Clearly, the total lack of confidence and imagination in the second half is a Lambert-era problem, but the long balls - famously absent for most of the season (and to no success) - returned, and looked about as effective as trebuchet launching balloons at a castle.

I think you need to give him a bit more time before judging him.

The tactics were bad. You don't need six months to not hoof the ball aimlessly at two defenders with a combined height of 13 feet.

But it is only his first game.

[silhillvilla]

I bet Lambert and mcleish are sat on park bench together tonight with a bottle of Bells

[hilts_coolerking]

The tactics were bad. You don't need six months to not hoof the ball aimlessly at two defenders with a combined height of 13 feet.

Okay, you don't like 442, we get that already.

[Monty]

He has that excuse, but it doesn't mean his tactics today were much cop. Clearly, the total lack of confidence and imagination in the second half is a Lambert-era problem, but the long balls - famously absent for most of the season (and to no success) - returned, and looked about as effective as trebuchet launching balloons at a castle.

I think you need to give him a bit more time before judging him.

The tactics were bad. You don't need six months to not hoof the ball aimlessly at two defenders with a combined height of 13 feet.

But it is only his first game.

What, in football? In his life? Maybe his tactics will get better, but today they weren't very good. Why not criticise him if we think he's made mistakes just because he's new?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I find it staggering just how bad our set pieces are.

It's hilarious the number of corners and free kicks we've had this season and we still don't know what the hell to do. When I see them all huddle together, pushing each other in the box I just know we won't do anything. What a shambles.

That's understandable, they aren't expecting the ball to make it to them anyway - and we rarely disappoint them.

Thanks. That just made me laugh and the mood I'm in, after that bloody shambes, is much appreciated.

[walsall villain]

We got out of that EXACTLY what we deserved.
Absolutely, fuck all!

There was no passion, no effort, no endeavour. Absolutely nothing.
Not a single player, except Clark, was worth a positive mention today.

The team is broken, broken far more than Sherwood can fix.
I think there is little doubt that we are now going down.

Lerner, you bastard, I hope you are happy!

Very poor display second half and we ended up throwing away a point. I thought Vlaar was better than that, perhaps not. It was a horrible game but at 44 minutes I felt we were very comfortable and likely to win so I can't agree there was no effort, just very short on confidence and quality on the ball.
I see corners haven't improved yet.

[Monty]

The tactics were bad. You don't need six months to not hoof the ball aimlessly at two defenders with a combined height of 13 feet.

Okay, you don't like 442, we get that already.

I didn't mention 4-4-2 in that post. It was about the long balls. Address my points, for goodness' sake.

[PeterWithesShin]

What really fucked me off is the amount of times we'd fail to even attempt a cross when having the ball wide in the final third, pass it all the way back to defenders or Guzan for them to promptly hoof it into the box. Fucking put the ball in the box when there's men in the box, not when everyone has left it. It's fucking basic stuff you cock sockets.

[Tuscans]

Some of you are right, a lot of you are wrong.

Still think we'll stay up.

Drinks.