Aston Villa vs Stoke Post Match Thread

[richard moore]

I'll tell you what, there's no worries about Benteke leaving in the summer. Nobody is going to want him based on what he's become. When we need our best players to come through and dominate games as we have seen him do, he's gone missing. Someone will come and offer a pittance and we won't sell is likely how it will pan out if this carries on.

One season wonder. You have to ask yourself if that is why he was relatively cheap 

[Gareth]

Good - Clark / Sinclair

Bad
Sanchez - legs had gone after an hour, surprised he didn't get a red
Gil - looked a 3m player, Messi he isn't
Gabby - any clues on what he does / offers?
Vlaar - plank
Cissokho - offers nothing
Delph - corners, really?
Benteke - average

[Risso]

Lerner is going to get what he deserves. A championship side worth fuck all .

Spot on.  How he could have let this happen almost beggars belief for a so-called businessman.  It's been an almost perfect lesson in how to ruin a business.

[Billy Walker]

Lerner is going to get what he deserves. A championship side worth fuck all .

Yep, Lerner is getting what he deserves but the great Aston Villa isn't getting what it deserves, that's for certain.

No point any of us chucking in the towel, though.  We have got to show some fight and scrap our way out of this.

[PaulWinch again]

I find it staggering just how bad our set pieces are.

[Singapore Villa]

It will be interesting to hear Sherwood's media comments.  I feel numb.  So much for the new manager bounce. We are a soft touch and the players need to grow some balls and stand up and be counted.

[supertom]

1pt will take us out of the bottom three and people are saying it's over, BOO HOO! Get a grip, 36pts left to play for and we we're unlucky not to get a point today.

Next stop Newcastle.

We weren't unlucky and that's the problem. We have a group of players who are performing pathetically below par.

I disagree

You don't think that our players are doing worse than they should be doing?

I do. They are massively underperforming.

True. Some are shit. Weimann for example. He's not good enough, clearly.
I also think TS will suffer from the state of fitness he's inherited with this squad. Too many players look fucked after an hour, and have done all season.

I look at defence and the left side looks poor still (though Rico was good today and missed when he left). Vlaar hasn't earned his place. Clark and Okore have been better (on the whole) this season. In fact Vlaar has been poorest of the five on the whole.
I look at CM and only Delph looks good enough, and even he's been comparatively poor compared to last season. Sanchez looks lost in high tempo games and that he didn't get a red today is a miracle. He looked an accident waiting to happen.
Attacking midfield we've got Sinclair and Gil who look lively. Gil's had injury niggles which held him back today though. Grealish and Bacuna need to come in now too.

Up front is a nightmare situation though. Benteke looks more Benteskey at the moment. Gabby is fat, slow and has always looked shit with a ball at his feet. Weimann is a poor player too. And that's it. No more options. Missing out on R Lambert may well cost us.

Huge job. We need a couple of results in the next three.

[OCD]

I'll tell you what, there's no worries about Benteke leaving in the summer. Nobody is going to want him based on what he's become. When we need our best players to come through and dominate games as we have seen him do, he's gone missing. Someone will come and offer a pittance and we won't sell is likely how it will pan out if this carries on.

He'll go on a knock down price because of what he's become but people will remember what he's capable of and think they can get that out of him in a better team.

[Toronto Villa]

If nothing else Sherwood and his coaching staff have got the jolt they needed. Everything was optimistic during the week and coming off an FA Cup win. There was a great feeling and the training pitch can be such a deceiving environment. When he sits down tonight and watches the game again with his staff he'll really start to realize what a task he has in front of him.

[Toronto Villa]

I'll tell you what, there's no worries about Benteke leaving in the summer. Nobody is going to want him based on what he's become. When we need our best players to come through and dominate games as we have seen him do, he's gone missing. Someone will come and offer a pittance and we won't sell is likely how it will pan out if this carries on.

He'll go on a knock down price because of what he's become but people will remember what he's capable of and think they can get that out of him in a better team.

That's just it, I don't think we'll sell at a knock down price.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'll tell you what, there's no worries about Benteke leaving in the summer. Nobody is going to want him based on what he's become. When we need our best players to come through and dominate games as we have seen him do, he's gone missing. Someone will come and offer a pittance and we won't sell is likely how it will pan out if this carries on.

You can't blame Benteke when our tactics are utter shite. Yet again we played into the strengths of the oppositions defence. Hoofing balls into him doesn't work. Maybe the secret to our survival is to drop him as I think it's the only way for the manager and players to realise there are other options.

[richard moore]

Lerner is going to get what he deserves. A championship side worth fuck all .

Spot on.  How he could have let this happen almost beggars belief for a so-called businessman.  It's been an almost perfect lesson in how to ruin a business.

He isn't though is he really. He's an idiot who got rich through no skill of his own. He looks what he is, completly gormless. I look at him and wonder how he even manages to do his laces up each morning. Perhaps he wears slip ons. He's rapidly becoming the worst thing that ever happened to this club in my eyes and boy did I fall for his gestures at the outset, what a mug.

[Monty]

I'll tell you what, there's no worries about Benteke leaving in the summer. Nobody is going to want him based on what he's become. When we need our best players to come through and dominate games as we have seen him do, he's gone missing. Someone will come and offer a pittance and we won't sell is likely how it will pan out if this carries on.

You can't blame Benteke when our tactics are utter shite. Yet again we played into the strengths of the oppositions defence. Hoofing balls into him doesn't work. Maybe the secret to our survival is to drop him as I think it's the only way for the manager and players to realise there are other options.

I think he played poorly, but the hoof-tactics were really quite depressing.

[OCD]

I'll tell you what, there's no worries about Benteke leaving in the summer. Nobody is going to want him based on what he's become. When we need our best players to come through and dominate games as we have seen him do, he's gone missing. Someone will come and offer a pittance and we won't sell is likely how it will pan out if this carries on.

He'll go on a knock down price because of what he's become but people will remember what he's capable of and think they can get that out of him in a better team.

That's just it, I don't think we'll sell at a knock down price.

Depends what division we're in.

[ktvillan]

I fear that the American Idiot's dithering may have left insufficient time to turn things around.  Lack of fitness, lack of confidence, too many sub-standard players (that's you Gabby) and a greater than average propensity for players to shoot their own team in the foot via red cards and gifting goals to the opposition (Vlaar's turn today on both counts).   Unless Sherwood can come up with some very quick fixes we are toast this time.  Ditching Gabby would be a big start, absolutely pointless player.