Aston Villa vs Stoke Post Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

I think he's been here 1 week and you're blasting him already. Forget the last 20 something games, they don't matter, nothing to do with him. He started from today and we were "player error" away from picking up a good point. Yea we lost so none of that matters but I have more faith in him than I did in Lambert that we can still pick up a few points to stay up.

I can't believe 1 point will take us out of the bottom three and it's pandemonium on here, we're doomed. Mental!

It isn't Sherwood people are having a go at.

It is the monumental clusterfuck which Fox and Lerner allowed Lambert put together over so long a period.

Look at the table. Look at the current form. Six defeats in a row and no sign of anything getting better, and you're genuinely surprised people are doomish? Really?

We won't get relegated because we appointed Sherwood. We'll get relegated because we left Lambert in the job for way, way too long.

We are a dreadfully poor team. A decent squad, but a piss poor team.

Although I'm not too delighted with Sherwood today. The big idea - 4-4-2 and long balls - was pretty uninspiring. And Gabby got 90 minutes.

Sherwood at least has the excuse he has only been in the job six days or whatever it is and has only just put his backroom staff together. It is understandable that he is going to take time to get the best he can out of the players.

And that is precisely the problem. We do not have time, and that is the fault squarely of Lerner and Fox for sitting there in cloud cuckoo land for so long whilst this utter mess was being created.

[Jimbo]

It takes a long time to turn around a wayward ship, but we have to believe we can do it with the games we have left. Everybody wants us to roll over, give in without a fight, but the battle isn't over yet and the fans can play a part in it. Let's not give up just yet.

[Gregorys Boy]

I think he's been here 1 week and you're blasting him already. Forget the last 20 something games, they don't matter, nothing to do with him. He started from today and we were "player error" away from picking up a good point. Yea we lost so none of that matters but I have more faith in him than I did in Lambert that we can still pick up a few points to stay up.

I can't believe 1 point will take us out of the bottom three and it's pandemonium on here, we're doomed. Mental!

Stoke at home is a 'good point'? It was a must-win.

But that is being disrespectful to Stoke they are a strong mid-table top flight team with a good manager who lets face it we would just love right now.  With it being Sherwood's first game and the promise of a lift then I think there was a hope we could have got a win, but a draw would have been a decent result.  One of the differences between Stoke under Pulis and now is that their away form is much better. 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I think he's been here 1 week and you're blasting him already. Forget the last 20 something games, they don't matter, nothing to do with him. He started from today and we were "player error" away from picking up a good point. Yea we lost so none of that matters but I have more faith in him than I did in Lambert that we can still pick up a few points to stay up.

I can't believe 1 point will take us out of the bottom three and it's pandemonium on here, we're doomed. Mental!

It isn't Sherwood people are having a go at.

It is the monumental clusterfuck which Fox and Lerner allowed Lambert put together over so long a period.

Look at the table. Look at the current form. Six defeats in a row and no sign of anything getting better, and you're genuinely surprised people are doomish? Really?

We won't get relegated because we appointed Sherwood. We'll get relegated because we left Lambert in the job for way, way too long.

We are a dreadfully poor team. A decent squad, but a piss poor team.

Although I'm not too delighted with Sherwood today. The big idea - 4-4-2 and long balls - was pretty uninspiring. And Gabby got 90 minutes.

I'm guessing the plan was to hoof it into the area and for Gabby to nick one in a scramble.

[Toronto Villa]

Really, firing him in December would have been the best time. It would have given the new manager a month of prep, a month for the transfer window and we'd be much better off now. Well theoretically anyway. All ifs and buts off course.

[usav]

I find it staggering just how bad our set pieces are.

It's hilarious the number of corners and free kicks we've had this season and we still don't know what the hell to do. When I see them all huddle together, pushing each other in the box I just know we won't do anything. What a shambles.

That's understandable, they aren't expecting the ball to make it to them anyway - and we rarely disappoint them.

[andyh]

We got out of that EXACTLY what we deserved.
Absolutely, fuck all!

There was no passion, no effort, no endeavour. Absolutely nothing.
Not a single player, except Clark, was worth a positive mention today.

The team is broken, broken far more than Sherwood can fix.
I think there is little doubt that we are now going down.

Lerner, you bastard, I hope you are happy!

[Holte L2]

Some radical changes needed now.

Next week I'd go as follows.

Given in for Guzan

Okore in for Vlaar

Cleverley in for Sanchez

Weimann in for Gabby

Bacuna for Gil.

Fuck me this is desperate.

[Monty]

He has that excuse, but it doesn't mean his tactics today were much cop. Clearly, the total lack of confidence and imagination in the second half is a Lambert-era problem, but the long balls - famously absent for most of the season (and to no success) - returned, and looked about as effective as trebuchet launching balloons at a castle.

[Tuscans]

I think he's been here 1 week and you're blasting him already. Forget the last 20 something games, they don't matter, nothing to do with him. He started from today and we were "player error" away from picking up a good point. Yea we lost so none of that matters but I have more faith in him than I did in Lambert that we can still pick up a few points to stay up.

I can't believe 1 point will take us out of the bottom three and it's pandemonium on here, we're doomed. Mental!

Stoke at home is a 'good point'? It was a must-win.

Must win? So don't win and we're mathematically, 100% down? No...a must win would be last game of the season against Burnley, winner stays up.

A point in Tim's first game in charge would of been good, and I thought we we're unlucky to not take a point. If Lambert was here we wouldn't have scored today and been well beaten.

[PaulWinch again]

Bit harsh on Sinclair.

[hilts_coolerking]

Really, firing him in December would have been the best time. It would have given the new manager a month of prep, a month for the transfer window and we'd be much better off now. Well theoretically anyway. All ifs and buts off course.

Giving him the new contract meant they couldn't do it until they had absolutely no other choice.

[Toronto Villa]

I think he's been here 1 week and you're blasting him already. Forget the last 20 something games, they don't matter, nothing to do with him. He started from today and we were "player error" away from picking up a good point. Yea we lost so none of that matters but I have more faith in him than I did in Lambert that we can still pick up a few points to stay up.

I can't believe 1 point will take us out of the bottom three and it's pandemonium on here, we're doomed. Mental!

Stoke at home is a 'good point'? It was a must-win.

But that is being disrespectful to Stoke they are a strong mid-table top flight team with a good manager who lets face it we would just love right now.  With it being Sherwood's first game and the promise of a lift then I think there was a hope we could have got a win, but a draw would have been a decent result.  One of the differences between Stoke under Pulis and now is that their away form is much better. 

what is clear is that teams like Stoke are pretty deep with the same types of player, so when a starting player gets injured the replacement isn't a huge drop off in quality and knows to play the same way. That's a consequence of having in place a system of recruitment that they believe in to secure their PL position. Hughes has moved away from it slightly with the likes of Bojan or Ireland, but the core is still big and strong players who can get stuck in at this level.

[PaulWinch again]

He has that excuse, but it doesn't mean his tactics today were much cop. Clearly, the total lack of confidence and imagination in the second half is a Lambert-era problem, but the long balls - famously absent for most of the season (and to no success) - returned, and looked about as effective as trebuchet launching balloons at a castle.

I think you need to give him a bit more time before judging him.

[Monty]

I think he's been here 1 week and you're blasting him already. Forget the last 20 something games, they don't matter, nothing to do with him. He started from today and we were "player error" away from picking up a good point. Yea we lost so none of that matters but I have more faith in him than I did in Lambert that we can still pick up a few points to stay up.

I can't believe 1 point will take us out of the bottom three and it's pandemonium on here, we're doomed. Mental!

Stoke at home is a 'good point'? It was a must-win.

Must win? So don't win and we're mathematically, 100% down? No...a must win would be last game of the season against Burnley, winner stays up.

A point in Tim's first game in charge would of been good, and I thought we we're unlucky to not take a point. If Lambert was here we wouldn't have scored today and been well beaten.

Can't argue with your last sentence, but Stoke were exactly the sort of team - nothing really to play for - that sides getting themselves out of trouble tend to beat at this stage of the season. I don't like our April at all, have to say.