Aston Villa vs Stoke Post Match Thread

[TopDeck113]

Lerner is going to get what he deserves. A championship side worth fuck all .

Lerner perhaps - he is as clueless an owner as you could get - but those of us who'll still be here after he's long gone don't deserve year after year of mismanagement ending in relegation.

[silhillvilla]

I am absolutely gutted. Randy Lerner and his indifference and negligence and absolute contempt for the club, the fans and the institution has ruined us.
Even seeing him lose £200m will not soften the blow of what's coming. He's an idiot and coward of the highest order.

[supertom]

It will be interesting to hear Sherwood's media comments.  I feel numb.  So much for the new manager bounce. We are a soft touch and the players need to grow some balls and stand up and be counted.

Frustrating part is that we started lively but ran out of steam. I still thought we warranted a point because Stoke weren't even that good today. To be fair they can look better and on another day may have picked us apart, but Vlaar really gave it away.

How he lines up next week will give an indication of just how aggressively he'll approach this job. Surely he's got to address the fact that Andi and Gabby are shit and hold the team back.

I don't envy him sorting out CM though. It's a poor selection to choose from. Delph + 1 or 2 unsuited/poor players.

[ciggiesnbeer]

It will be interesting to hear Sherwood's media comments.  I feel numb.  So much for the new manager bounce. We are a soft touch and the players need to grow some balls and stand up and be counted.

This. As a fan it feels like Villa is just a way to ruin a perfectly good weekend. The "good" news is that Championship games are not covered much here in the USA so next season at least there will be a forced moving away from me watching.

[usav]

Gabby is fucking pathetic and he needs to go.

That's all very well, but who instead?  Weimann is utter toss.

[kippaxvilla2]

Tim:

Thought it was a poor game of football and neither side deserved to win it.  Thought it was a nothing game.  Gutted to lose it at the end.  No one said it was going to be easy.  Need an injection of confidence with a win.  Told the players in the dressing room they didn't deserve to lose but didn't do enough to win it.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I find it staggering just how bad our set pieces are.

It's hilarious the number of corners and free kicks we've had this season and we still don't know what the hell to do. When I see them all huddle together, pushing each other in the box I just know we won't do anything. What a shambles.

[curlytailavfc]

to much to do and to little time left to save us

[Hopadop]

I'm looking at the table right now! We're top!



We needed the famous bounce today. But our dead cat just went splat.

[Risso]

I'll tell you what, there's no worries about Benteke leaving in the summer. Nobody is going to want him based on what he's become. When we need our best players to come through and dominate games as we have seen him do, he's gone missing. Someone will come and offer a pittance and we won't sell is likely how it will pan out if this carries on.

You can't blame Benteke when our tactics are utter shite. Yet again we played into the strengths of the oppositions defence. Hoofing balls into him doesn't work. Maybe the secret to our survival is to drop him as I think it's the only way for the manager and players to realise there are other options.

Trouble is Mark, what are the other options?  Gabby and Weimann who were both embarrassingly bad today.  Such a shame about Kozak because he'd have walked into the side today.

[Stu]

What got me the most was the lack of fight.  We're in the shit good and proper, New manager in, points to get and there was no urgency.

[Tuscans]

I think he's been here 1 week and you're blasting him already. Forget the last 20 something games, they don't matter, nothing to do with him. He started from today and we were "player error" away from picking up a good point. Yea we lost so none of that matters but I have more faith in him than I did in Lambert that we can still pick up a few points to stay up.

I can't believe 1 point will take us out of the bottom three and it's pandemonium on here, we're doomed. Mental!

[supertom]

I am absolutely gutted. Randy Lerner and his indifference and negligence and absolute contempt for the club, the fans and the institution has ruined us.
Even seeing him lose £200m will not soften the blow of what's coming. He's an idiot and coward of the highest order.

We do have some good players here. Trouble is they will all leave should we go down and we'll be left with a skeleton crew of our poorer players, largely untried youngsters and the returning Lambert rejects. I wouldn't expect us to come straight up. In fact I think a double drop would be more likely than an instant return. Leeds/Man City (minus City's fairytale turnaround). There's some big clubs wallowing in the Championship and L1. We'd be in similar company.

[hilts_coolerking]

Lerner is going to get what he deserves. A championship side worth fuck all .

Spot on.  How he could have let this happen almost beggars belief for a so-called businessman.  It's been an almost perfect lesson in how to ruin a business.

He isn't though is he really. He's an idiot who got rich through no skill of his own. He looks what he is, completly gormless. I look at him and wonder how he even manages to do his laces up each morning. Perhaps he wears slip ons. He's rapidly becoming the worst thing that ever happened to this club in my eyes and boy did I fall for his gestures at the outset, what a mug.

He's the George W. Bush of football.

[Adam B]

Lerner is going to get what he deserves. A championship side worth fuck all .

Spot on.  How he could have let this happen almost beggars belief for a so-called businessman.  It's been an almost perfect lesson in how to ruin a business.

If the NFL had relegation then the Browns would no doubt have gone down, too. Lerner may be a well-meaning man, but he is extremely naive.