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Offline not3bad

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #165 on: February 18, 2015, 02:06:59 PM »
I'm getting a bad feeling and I don't know why.
Me too...... Shudder
That's no Moon.

Online Holte L2

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #166 on: February 18, 2015, 02:07:39 PM »
There has to be a place for Glenn Roeder.

Burried under a slab outside the Trinity?

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #167 on: February 18, 2015, 02:20:24 PM »
It's a first team coach we are discussing which PL clubs have a number of. This role is very much in the background and shouldn't even be a significant topic of conversation. Having said that I think this is all part of a renewed interest in the club and new manager. We win Saturday and the sun comes out and Mark Robson is forgotten very quickly.

After reading that I just had to check the date to make sure you posted it in 2015 and not 1915.

As for Mark Robson, the biggest positive I can see from his CV is he obviously thinks Neil Adams is an arse who knows little about football and the importance of tactics.

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #168 on: February 18, 2015, 02:30:58 PM »
It's a first team coach we are discussing which PL clubs have a number of. This role is very much in the background and shouldn't even be a significant topic of conversation. Having said that I think this is all part of a renewed interest in the club and new manager. We win Saturday and the sun comes out and Mark Robson is forgotten very quickly.

After reading that I just had to check the date to make sure you posted it in 2015 and not 1915.

As for Mark Robson, the biggest positive I can see from his CV is he obviously thinks Neil Adams is an arse who knows little about football and the importance of tactics.

you've lost me on the whole 1915 thing. It's 2015 and in the grand scheme of things hiring a first team coach should be a "who gives a fuck moment?"

Online Ger Regan

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #169 on: February 18, 2015, 02:54:38 PM »
One of the biggest failings of lambert was a seeming lack of adequate coaching, so I think it's pertinent that it is addressed.

Offline peter w

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #170 on: February 18, 2015, 03:22:27 PM »
As for Roeder...isn't he highly thought of behind the scenes? I think we could do a lot worse.

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #171 on: February 18, 2015, 03:32:08 PM »
One of the biggest failings of lambert was a seeming lack of adequate coaching, so I think it's pertinent that it is addressed.

I think if Sherwood simply hires an actual coach and not nuts or bullies it will be a massive step forward from Lambert.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #172 on: February 18, 2015, 03:32:48 PM »
There has to be a place for Glenn Roeder.

Burried under a slab outside the Trinity?

Not under mine

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #173 on: February 18, 2015, 04:48:55 PM »
It's a first team coach we are discussing which PL clubs have a number of. This role is very much in the background and shouldn't even be a significant topic of conversation. Having said that I think this is all part of a renewed interest in the club and new manager. We win Saturday and the sun comes out and Mark Robson is forgotten very quickly.

After reading that I just had to check the date to make sure you posted it in 2015 and not 1915.

As for Mark Robson, the biggest positive I can see from his CV is he obviously thinks Neil Adams is an arse who knows little about football and the importance of tactics.

you've lost me on the whole 1915 thing. It's 2015 and in the grand scheme of things hiring a first team coach should be a "who gives a fuck moment?"

Funny, that. Less than a week ago you said it was "absolutely critical" we bring in the right coaching staff, now you don't give a fuck.

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #174 on: February 18, 2015, 04:54:31 PM »
I was always under the impression that Roeder was well thought of as a coach, probably could do much worse.

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #175 on: February 18, 2015, 05:21:42 PM »
It's a first team coach we are discussing which PL clubs have a number of. This role is very much in the background and shouldn't even be a significant topic of conversation. Having said that I think this is all part of a renewed interest in the club and new manager. We win Saturday and the sun comes out and Mark Robson is forgotten very quickly.

After reading that I just had to check the date to make sure you posted it in 2015 and not 1915.

As for Mark Robson, the biggest positive I can see from his CV is he obviously thinks Neil Adams is an arse who knows little about football and the importance of tactics.

you've lost me on the whole 1915 thing. It's 2015 and in the grand scheme of things hiring a first team coach should be a "who gives a fuck moment?"

Funny, that. Less than a week ago you said it was "absolutely critical" we bring in the right coaching staff, now you don't give a fuck.

I don't think he's saying that its not important. More that we don't know who's a good coach or not so how can we rush to judgments?

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #176 on: February 18, 2015, 05:26:04 PM »
Surely we just got let the new boss settle in and trust who he picks. I haven't got a clue what makes a good coach, it's certainly not all about a name and how good footballer they were.

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #177 on: February 18, 2015, 05:34:36 PM »
It's a first team coach we are discussing which PL clubs have a number of. This role is very much in the background and shouldn't even be a significant topic of conversation. Having said that I think this is all part of a renewed interest in the club and new manager. We win Saturday and the sun comes out and Mark Robson is forgotten very quickly.

After reading that I just had to check the date to make sure you posted it in 2015 and not 1915.

As for Mark Robson, the biggest positive I can see from his CV is he obviously thinks Neil Adams is an arse who knows little about football and the importance of tactics.

you've lost me on the whole 1915 thing. It's 2015 and in the grand scheme of things hiring a first team coach should be a "who gives a fuck moment?"

Funny, that. Less than a week ago you said it was "absolutely critical" we bring in the right coaching staff, now you don't give a fuck.

I don't think he's saying that its not important. More that we don't know who's a good coach or not so how can we rush to judgments?

Precisely. And I said staff and not judging just an individual which people are doing. I'm glad you were bright enough to understand that. In the grand scheme of things the topic of a first team coach hiring is irrelevant. It is how does that person work as part of an overall staff.

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #178 on: February 18, 2015, 05:37:27 PM »
I don't think he's saying that its not important. More that we don't know who's a good coach or not so how can we rush to judgments?

But we do have some testimony from fans who've experienced this coach, and once again the testimony isn't promising (I've asked a Norwich friend of mine about Robson, and his response was to make a face and shake his head in apparently disgusted silence).

Why do people think Villa exist in a vacuum? This 'give him a chance' meme which goes around (and how am I meant not to give them a chance? Boo when we score?) seems to imply that previously incompetent people might suddenly become everything we want them to be when they walk through the door at B6. Robson doesn't have the best reputation (to put it mildly), so it's another appointment for me to be underwhelmed by.

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Re: New Back Room Staff
« Reply #179 on: February 18, 2015, 05:50:04 PM »
Because you are taking the opinion of fans about a coach as opposed to a professional about a coach. How does any fan really know what a coach does? We might see clips of what they do, but do we ever see what they do the rest of the day? Their preparation and study outside of the view of the cameras? I don't dismiss anything entirely but I am always going to be skeptical of fans views on coaches because we don't really see how much or little they do. The manager is much more public, much more visible and accountable by comparison.

 


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