Quote from: rob_bridge on October 26, 2015, 01:42:21 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 01:24:46 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on October 26, 2015, 01:12:19 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 01:07:41 PMQuote from: Ger Regan on October 26, 2015, 01:03:37 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 12:58:40 PMBut with a load of poor appointments, they dont have a good track record of getting the right man in, Garde who i know nothing about, or Moyes who I believe a top manager, the only reason to go for Garde is his cheaper and wont demand a transfer budget. If you know nothing about him, how do you know they're the only reasons to go for garde?Fella you know what?Studied Garde have you?look at the appointments on what grounds where they based?Moyes obviously aint a cheap option, as a Villa fan I want reassurance that were going for the best we can get, Garde as far as I know aint managed in the prem?I don't understand why you have this perception that Villa don't pay their managers so by extension Garde is the more attractive, cheap option? And therefore why they won't go for Moyes. Are you dismissing that there might very well be another set of reasons as to why Garde makes more sense?Well Mcleish, Lambert and Sherwood coming from where they came from, to me where star struck by Aston Villa Managers job, we did interview Rafa Benitez but Villa didnt appoint. I could be wrong but with the way Randy has run the club, get the wage bill down (I particularly felt sorry for Alex Mcleish) Randy does seem to try and run the club on a budget, including appointing managers. Admittedly he's get better because his getting clauses into their contracts that in certain circumstances the club will pay you x amount which does not equate to 4 years sellary.McLeish transfers£9.5 for CNZ + 5 years at 65k pa = £25m with zero ROI£3.5 for Hutton + 4 years at 40k = £10m with little ROILoan for Jenas + 1 year at 2m wages = £2m£3.5m for Given + 5 years at 65k = £19mNot sure how sorry we should feel for him. See very little value for money there and followed same pattern as O'Neill in hiring 'proven' Premier League players all as it happened past their best.
Quote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 01:24:46 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on October 26, 2015, 01:12:19 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 01:07:41 PMQuote from: Ger Regan on October 26, 2015, 01:03:37 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 12:58:40 PMBut with a load of poor appointments, they dont have a good track record of getting the right man in, Garde who i know nothing about, or Moyes who I believe a top manager, the only reason to go for Garde is his cheaper and wont demand a transfer budget. If you know nothing about him, how do you know they're the only reasons to go for garde?Fella you know what?Studied Garde have you?look at the appointments on what grounds where they based?Moyes obviously aint a cheap option, as a Villa fan I want reassurance that were going for the best we can get, Garde as far as I know aint managed in the prem?I don't understand why you have this perception that Villa don't pay their managers so by extension Garde is the more attractive, cheap option? And therefore why they won't go for Moyes. Are you dismissing that there might very well be another set of reasons as to why Garde makes more sense?Well Mcleish, Lambert and Sherwood coming from where they came from, to me where star struck by Aston Villa Managers job, we did interview Rafa Benitez but Villa didnt appoint. I could be wrong but with the way Randy has run the club, get the wage bill down (I particularly felt sorry for Alex Mcleish) Randy does seem to try and run the club on a budget, including appointing managers. Admittedly he's get better because his getting clauses into their contracts that in certain circumstances the club will pay you x amount which does not equate to 4 years sellary.McLeish transfers£9.5 for CNZ + 5 years at 65k pa = £25m with zero ROI£3.5 for Hutton + 4 years at 40k = £10m with little ROILoan for Jenas + 1 year at 2m wages = £2m£3.5m for Given + 5 years at 65k = £19mNot sure how sorry we should feel for him. See very little value for money there and followed same pattern as O'Neill in hiring 'proven' Premier League players all as it happened past their best.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on October 26, 2015, 01:12:19 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 01:07:41 PMQuote from: Ger Regan on October 26, 2015, 01:03:37 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 12:58:40 PMBut with a load of poor appointments, they dont have a good track record of getting the right man in, Garde who i know nothing about, or Moyes who I believe a top manager, the only reason to go for Garde is his cheaper and wont demand a transfer budget. If you know nothing about him, how do you know they're the only reasons to go for garde?Fella you know what?Studied Garde have you?look at the appointments on what grounds where they based?Moyes obviously aint a cheap option, as a Villa fan I want reassurance that were going for the best we can get, Garde as far as I know aint managed in the prem?I don't understand why you have this perception that Villa don't pay their managers so by extension Garde is the more attractive, cheap option? And therefore why they won't go for Moyes. Are you dismissing that there might very well be another set of reasons as to why Garde makes more sense?Well Mcleish, Lambert and Sherwood coming from where they came from, to me where star struck by Aston Villa Managers job, we did interview Rafa Benitez but Villa didnt appoint. I could be wrong but with the way Randy has run the club, get the wage bill down (I particularly felt sorry for Alex Mcleish) Randy does seem to try and run the club on a budget, including appointing managers. Admittedly he's get better because his getting clauses into their contracts that in certain circumstances the club will pay you x amount which does not equate to 4 years sellary.
Quote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 01:07:41 PMQuote from: Ger Regan on October 26, 2015, 01:03:37 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 12:58:40 PMBut with a load of poor appointments, they dont have a good track record of getting the right man in, Garde who i know nothing about, or Moyes who I believe a top manager, the only reason to go for Garde is his cheaper and wont demand a transfer budget. If you know nothing about him, how do you know they're the only reasons to go for garde?Fella you know what?Studied Garde have you?look at the appointments on what grounds where they based?Moyes obviously aint a cheap option, as a Villa fan I want reassurance that were going for the best we can get, Garde as far as I know aint managed in the prem?I don't understand why you have this perception that Villa don't pay their managers so by extension Garde is the more attractive, cheap option? And therefore why they won't go for Moyes. Are you dismissing that there might very well be another set of reasons as to why Garde makes more sense?
Quote from: Ger Regan on October 26, 2015, 01:03:37 PMQuote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 12:58:40 PMBut with a load of poor appointments, they dont have a good track record of getting the right man in, Garde who i know nothing about, or Moyes who I believe a top manager, the only reason to go for Garde is his cheaper and wont demand a transfer budget. If you know nothing about him, how do you know they're the only reasons to go for garde?Fella you know what?Studied Garde have you?look at the appointments on what grounds where they based?Moyes obviously aint a cheap option, as a Villa fan I want reassurance that were going for the best we can get, Garde as far as I know aint managed in the prem?
Quote from: Tony Erdington on October 26, 2015, 12:58:40 PMBut with a load of poor appointments, they dont have a good track record of getting the right man in, Garde who i know nothing about, or Moyes who I believe a top manager, the only reason to go for Garde is his cheaper and wont demand a transfer budget. If you know nothing about him, how do you know they're the only reasons to go for garde?
But with a load of poor appointments, they dont have a good track record of getting the right man in, Garde who i know nothing about, or Moyes who I believe a top manager, the only reason to go for Garde is his cheaper and wont demand a transfer budget.
If the rumour is to be believed, Sherwood wanting Townsend, Begovic, etc wasn't a bad shout.
Quote from: Wiggz on October 26, 2015, 01:52:56 PMIf the rumour is to be believed, Sherwood wanting Townsend, Begovic, etc wasn't a bad shout.Sherwood wanting Townsend always was, and always will be a terrible shout.
well you could, because he has
Quote from: Dave on October 26, 2015, 01:55:37 PMQuote from: Wiggz on October 26, 2015, 01:52:56 PMIf the rumour is to be believed, Sherwood wanting Townsend, Begovic, etc wasn't a bad shout.Sherwood wanting Townsend always was, and always will be a terrible shout.I disagree...pacey player who makes things happen at times.....he'd be similar to Sinclair in ability....which whilst not setting the world on fire has at least provided "something" on occasion.I do concede that Townsend would have cost a premium up front and via wages.
Quote from: Wiggz on October 26, 2015, 02:07:24 PMQuote from: Dave on October 26, 2015, 01:55:37 PMQuote from: Wiggz on October 26, 2015, 01:52:56 PMIf the rumour is to be believed, Sherwood wanting Townsend, Begovic, etc wasn't a bad shout.Sherwood wanting Townsend always was, and always will be a terrible shout.I disagree...pacey player who makes things happen at times.....he'd be similar to Sinclair in ability....which whilst not setting the world on fire has at least provided "something" on occasion.I do concede that Townsend would have cost a premium up front and via wages.For "pacey player who makes things happen at times" read "gets the ball, cuts inside and shoots into the top corner of the stand".
I'm so fucking glad we're now not saddled with Adebayor a on a five year £100k a week contract plus god knows how much more for his entourage of soothsayers and medicine men
I have just spoken to a guy at work who knows someone quite close to the first team (photo evidence of the guy with Sherwood on matchday so definitely kosher) who reckons that Sherwood had lost the dressing room weeks ago as the all just saw him as a bullshitter, so much so they were playing bullshit bingo behind his back.His tactical nous revolved round telling them go out and give 110%, they were all in it together, blah blah.I take this as a good sign as they players were as pissed of as we were and were crying out for a manager with some tactical knowledge.Onwards and upwards