It's not Sherwood!

[KRS]

TS looked very emotional and pissed off in his post game interview (MOTD2)...I'm glad that he was as emotional and pissed off as me. The fans were excellent today and he knows he owes us after todays result. If there is one tiny shred of consolation out of the result today, it's that it was unlikely that we'd win all 3 of these derby games, and today is the only one that I don't actually mind losing if it means that we beat Baggies and Blues...I think Baggies are going to feel some pain next weekend, and the cup game will be an emotional rollercoaster and we'll need to play our part in both games (the addition of Gueye and Traore will also help massively!).

In terms of the subs today...Veretout really was the only player that should have been considered if he needed to replace Gil...

Bunn
Clark
Gestede
Ayew
Veretout
Richardson
Hutton

...I'm sure Veretout could have done a job for 30 minutes, and even in a worst case scenario then you bring on Clark, Richardson or Hutton and push Bacuna into midfield. You don't under any circumstances weaken our midfield by bringing on a forward who has barely kicked a ball let alone come close to even prove he's good enough at this level to see out a game.

TS...I'm glad your upset, and so you fuckin should be.

[LTA]

TS looked very emotional and pissed off in his post game interview (MOTD2)...I'm glad that he was as emotional and pissed off as me. The fans were excellent today and he knows he owes us after todays result. If there is one tiny but of consolation out of the result today, it's that it was unlikely that we'd win all 3 of these derby games, and today is the only one that I don't actually mind losing if it means that we beat Baggies and Blues...I think Baggies are going to feel some pain next weekend, and the cup game will be an emotional rollercoaster and we'll need to play our part in both games (the addition of Gueye and Traore will also help massively!).

In terms of the subs today...Veretout really was the only player that should have been considered if he needed to replace Gil...

Bunn
Clark
Gestede
Ayew
Veretout
Richardson
Hutton

...I'm sure Veretout could have done a job for 30 minutes, and even in a worst case scenario the you bring on Clark, Richardson or Hutton and push Bacuna into midfield. You don't under any circumstances weaken our midfield by bringing on a forward who has barely kicked a ball let alone come close to even prove he's good enough at this level to see out a game.

TS...I'm glad your upset, and so you fuckin should be.

He should be pissed off.  Pissed off with himself for once again being outwitted by a rival manager.

He will lose a lot of goodwill if the next two games go wrong, and I wouldn't rule that out to be honest.

[silhillvilla]

Bottom line is as a midfield, when you allow Drinkwater to win the game you know you have massive problems .

[VancouverLion]

Bottom line is as a midfield, when you allow Drinkwater to win the game you know you have massive problems .

This.

[myf]

It's frustrating seeing Sanchez get MOM against Brazil and then get bossed by a Leicester midfield.  We could do with bringing a shrink in to sort the players heads out.

Once he's finished on here maybe you can let the team have him.

As for Sanchez, you'd struggle to find a Villa fan on here who didn't think Sanchez was the best player on the pitch first half.
I'd love to see his stats for ground covered and this a player that intelligently tries not to waste energy.

If Sanchez is our problem we're doomed.

Don't get me wrong I've always liked Sanchez. Just sick to death of the stupid mistakes the players seem to make week in week out

[ozzjim]

I think Sanchez has been excellent for 70 minutes most games, then dead on his feet, but Sherwood fails to react to it at all.

Next week I am starting to think 3 at the back with Sanchez and Gueye in front might be a welcome change, as it might mean that core is not quite as fucked by 70 minutes and then whatever he does with the attacking players won't have the same detrimental impact.

[OzVilla]

I agree, remember when GTMK1 stumbled across the 3 at the back in Mountfield, McGrath and Nielsen.  Basically we had similar issues then, full backs that could get forward well and struggled defensively.  I think Richards, Lescott and Clark all starting makes us more solid and allows Amavi and Bacuna to play higher up the pitch unless you ditch Bacuna altogether and go with a 3-5-2. 

Not knowing your best team or best formation is somewhat inevitable given the changes.  Very frustrating though.

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think we should start the search for next Arsene Wenger in France as we got lot of French speaking players. Tim Sherwood isn't good enough Let hope he learn his lesson yesterday. If I was Randy I would give him a bollocking.

[David_Nab]

He's happy with his subs according to the Meaning Evil.

Well he is in a group of one that thinks that...

Thr subs where awful the timing and the players coming on.

[brian green]

Among all their other faults too long to list a common denominator between MON, TSM1 and TSM2 was mule headed stubbornness. An almost paranoid refusal to see the blindingly obvious. For TS to say he is happy with his substitutions displays either more managerial self righteousness or lying to the media to save face. We have had a bellyful of both for the last five years and I admit I expected better of Sherwood.

[Gregorys Boy]

TS looked very emotional and pissed off in his post game interview (MOTD2)...I'm glad that he was as emotional and pissed off as me. The fans were excellent today and he knows he owes us after todays result. If there is one tiny shred of consolation out of the result today, it's that it was unlikely that we'd win all 3 of these derby games, and today is the only one that I don't actually mind losing if it means that we beat Baggies and Blues...I think Baggies are going to feel some pain next weekend, and the cup game will be an emotional rollercoaster and we'll need to play our part in both games (the addition of Gueye and Traore will also help massively!).

In terms of the subs today...Veretout really was the only player that should have been considered if he needed to replace Gil...

Bunn
Clark
Gestede
Ayew
Veretout
Richardson
Hutton

...I'm sure Veretout could have done a job for 30 minutes, and even in a worst case scenario then you bring on Clark, Richardson or Hutton and push Bacuna into midfield. You don't under any circumstances weaken our midfield by bringing on a forward who has barely kicked a ball let alone come close to even prove he's good enough at this level to see out a game.

TS...I'm glad your upset, and so you fuckin should be.

There's two ways to look at Sherwood's reponse post-match.  Yes it is good that he was hurt by the performance because otherwise it may have seen like he didn't care and maybe was not going to be too bothered about putting it right, but then again taking these defeats is all part of management, and it did sound like he was a little too down.  Think this is down to a lack of experience and be a Sherwood being a bit overly emtionally.  Its still early in the season, and hopefully things will start picking up from here.

[Ormy Droid]

While I can just about understand him not willing to admit he got the substitutions wrong in public, Sherwood can't then decide to heap all the blame on the errors of individuals (we were under so much pressure second half, mistakes were inevitable once we gave them a foothold in the game).

It's more or less exactly what he did at Spurs. They got hammered at Chelsea, and Sherwood castigates his players in the post match interview to deflect any blame away from himself. I don't even thing it's intentional, more an instinct of survival.

He's tactically inept, and I don't think he's the type to learn from his mistakes, because his arrogance, pigheadedness, lack of functioning brain cells, etc. simply won't let him. If I was this Henrik guy, I'd be sounding out various managerial candidates now, because I just don't think Sherwood is up to management at this level. He's like a Keegan, or a Stuart Pearce, great at motivation, but rubbish at pretty much everything else you need in football management.

I hope I'm wrong though.

[Gregorys Boy]

While I can just about understand him not willing to admit he got the substitutions wrong in public, Sherwood can't then decide to heap all the blame on the errors of individuals (we were under so much pressure second half, mistakes were inevitable once we gave them a foothold in the game).

It's more or less exactly what he did at Spurs. They got hammered at Chelsea, and Sherwood castigates his players in the post match interview to deflect any blame away from himself. I don't even thing it's intentional, more an instinct of survival.

He's tactically inept, and I don't think he's the type to learn from his mistakes, because his arrogance, pigheadedness, lack of functioning brain cells, etc. simply won't let him. If I was this Henrik guy, I'd be sounding out various managerial candidates now, because I just don't think Sherwood is up to management at this level. He's like a Keegan, or a Stuart Pearce, great at motivation, but rubbish at pretty much everything else you need in football management.

I hope I'm wrong though.

Think you have a point.  The only thing I would say is that didn't think he made it clear who the blame was on, when he said "we" that could be a collective thing. I think much of it comes from the manager anyway, but then I can see how yesterday was very much down to the players making mistakes more than him. 

[Ormy Droid]

While I can just about understand him not willing to admit he got the substitutions wrong in public, Sherwood can't then decide to heap all the blame on the errors of individuals (we were under so much pressure second half, mistakes were inevitable once we gave them a foothold in the game).

It's more or less exactly what he did at Spurs. They got hammered at Chelsea, and Sherwood castigates his players in the post match interview to deflect any blame away from himself. I don't even thing it's intentional, more an instinct of survival.

He's tactically inept, and I don't think he's the type to learn from his mistakes, because his arrogance, pigheadedness, lack of functioning brain cells, etc. simply won't let him. If I was this Henrik guy, I'd be sounding out various managerial candidates now, because I just don't think Sherwood is up to management at this level. He's like a Keegan, or a Stuart Pearce, great at motivation, but rubbish at pretty much everything else you need in football management.

I hope I'm wrong though.

Think you have a point.  The only thing I would say is that didn't think he made it clear who the blame was on, when he said "we" that could be a collective thing. I think much of it comes from the manager anyway, but then I can see how yesterday was very much down to the players making mistakes more than him.

After losing a 2 nil lead, there's certainly a hell of a lot of blame to go around for everybody!

It all looked fairly obvious to me. We played really well first half, go in at half time with a well deserved lead. Ranieri switches the ineffective Mahrez to a more central role, and suddenly we're outnumbered, and soon to be overwhelmed in midfield. We score the second out of nowhere really, and instead of shoring up our overworked, and fast tiring midfield pair, and giving Bacuna some protection down the right flank, as Gil was obviously knackered and could no longer track back...'We' bring on Ayew, and empty our midfield even more! It beggars belief really.

[levico]

I don't get it with Sherwood.

I admit that I know next to nothing about football, I just love the Villa and have done for 50 years. But even I could see that at 2-0 up you don't put on strikers for midfielders.

I'm not sure he is capable of learning from his mistakes, his ego is getting in the way.