It's not Sherwood!

[Clampy]

Today, Burnley, Southampton...

With Lamberts team - which would have been relegated with Lambert in charge. Let's see how he does once he starts buying players and moving dross elsewhere.

As bad as yesterday was, it's all too easy to pick out the defeats. We've played some bloody good stuff under him as well.

[Neil Hawkes]

Today, Burnley, Southampton...

With Lamberts team - which would have been relegated with Lambert in charge.

He managed to beat Liverpool, Everton, West Brom, Spurs, West Ham etc with Lambert's team.

It can't be all Sherwood when we win and all Lambert when we lose.

My point is when the first selection doesn't work, he doesn't have the players to change to an alternative "good" back-up.

[CT]

When we win people praise Sherwood and the staff he has around him, Parks, Robson, McDonald etc.

When we lose it should be the same shouldn't it?

At some point, surely, players have to take responsibility. You might be technically inferior but that should not excuse you for not even having the guts to fight.

[Villafirst]

Way too early to judge TS. My biggest gripe is his neglect of Carles Gil; why on earth can't Gil make this team? I would've started with him and Sinclair in the wide positions. Both are technically very good. Do you agree?

[supertom]

What he really needs is a full pre-season and a load of his own signings. He must be getting fed up with some of our shit players and even more with some of our persistently injured lot.

I think this time next year we will know for sure just whether Sherwood is going to be a decent manager or not.

I think more than anything we just ran out of steam in the last few weeks. Half fit players here, there, everywhere. People filling in. Piecing together backlines as best as he can manage. A hell of a job. I think we were second bottom after the Hull defeat and honestly looked dead and buried. To have kept us up was a great achievement frankly.
This is a damn shame and he has got it wrong tactically, but he'll get some wrong, some right. It's been about 50/50 with him so far. But sadly yesterday wasn't one of his right days. That said, Arsenal were that good we'd have lost anyway I think.

[Dave]

Today, Burnley, Southampton...

With Lamberts team - which would have been relegated with Lambert in charge.

He managed to beat Liverpool, Everton, West Brom, Spurs, West Ham etc with Lambert's team.

It can't be all Sherwood when we win and all Lambert when we lose.

My point is when the first selection doesn't work, he doesn't have the players to change to an alternative "good" back-up.

Gil? Sinclair?

He's not being forced to play the likes of Gabby and N'Zogbia and completely ignore two of our more creative players.

[silhillvilla]

Gil's not even making the bench. Something has gone on there I'm guessing between TS and Him.

[Neil Hawkes]

When we win people praise Sherwood and the staff he has around him, Parks, Robson, McDonald etc.

When we lose it should be the same shouldn't it?

At some point, surely, players have to take responsibility. You might be technically inferior but that should not excuse you for not even having the guts to fight.

I agree, but I'm not writing the manager off just yet as he showed in his brief tenure he can get this team playing to something resembling good football, whereas his predecessor could not seem to get them out of the doldrums after a run of poor results.
His test now will be to show he can get them playing after a run of poor results, (and the last three have been doozies) AND if more good consistent performances are possible with the deadwood gone and his own players brought in.

[olaftab]

Sherwood employed clueless tactics and wrong team selection yesterday. He said he tried to stop Arsenal. If he wanted to do that why didn't he copy what Clarke and Monk did?

[Dave]

I agree, but I'm not writing the manager off just yet as he showed in his brief tenure he can get this team playing to something resembling good football, whereas his predecessor could not seem to get them out of the doldrums after a run of poor results.

He's not being written off on the basis of the last three results - but nor does he get a free pass just because "they're not his players".

If he deserves credit when they play well (and he absolutely does), then he also deserves criticism when they don't.

[Neil Hawkes]

I agree, but I'm not writing the manager off just yet as he showed in his brief tenure he can get this team playing to something resembling good football, whereas his predecessor could not seem to get them out of the doldrums after a run of poor results.

He's not being written off on the basis of the last three results - but nor does he get a free pass just because "they're not his players".

If he deserves credit when they play well (and he absolutely does), then he also deserves criticism when they don't.

He is by some - and yes he deserves criticism when he gets it wrong.

[Walmley_Villa]

I'm grateful he kept us up but the jury is back out based on the last 3 weeks performances and some naive press quotes re: Benteke for example. Set up was all over the place yesterday and we neither pressed Arsenal or sat back off them, it was a real nothing formation. I think he was worried about us being on the end of a heavy defeat which actually led to us being on the back of a heavy defeat. CNZ must have blackmail material on Sherwood and Gil has obviously been found shagging his wife, the only explanation for the inclusion and exclusion respectively.

[richard moore]

I'm grateful he kept us up but the jury is back out based on the last 3 weeks performances and some naive press quotes re: Benteke for example. Set up was all over the place yesterday and we neither pressed Arsenal or sat back off them, it was a real nothing formation. I think he was worried about us being on the end of a heavy defeat which actually led to us being on the back of a heavy defeat. CNZ must have blackmail material on Sherwood and Gil has obviously been found shagging his wife, the only explanation for the inclusion and exclusion respectively.

Yes, I think 'jury out' has to be the only sensible conclusion at this point. You could close your eyes and see it going either way at the moment for next season. It's only fair to give him the opportunity at this stage

[OzVilla]

He really needs at least a couple of transfer windows.

So a lot depends on whether Lerner can sell to the right buyer or back TS financially.

So it's a lot about Lerners next move, how could anything possibly go wrong!

[Drummond]

It was a crap game. But, this was a bonus. He was brought in to save us from the drop, which he did.

We all agree we need wholesale changes, the squad lacks quality, it lacks variety, and like he said yesterday, it's got a losing mentality.

He did wonders short term and now it's up to him to create his squad, team and style.