It's not Sherwood!

[Clampy]

It's more about what might happen and why. And why is it a topic for discussion? Well, because it's a thread discussing the manager, TV, his strengths and weaknesses, and some of us feel this weakness might be a problem for him and for us. I don't understand why you have a problem with discussing it.

It does come across to me though that you're trying your very best to find flaws in his management and have done since we appointed him. Has he let down the image of Birmingham yet?

In any case, it seems like you're trying your very best to discuss nothing but other posters. It must get tiring.

I'm not sure what you're driving at with that comment, but if that's your defence for finding little fault's with Sherwood then fair enough.

[Chris Smith]

Totally get the comments. Just think he needs to be careful since he'll get away with while things are positive. However, if things get sticky again then fans will target it and that's when things get messy.

I agree, football fans have long memories and things he is saying now might come back to haunt him.

That said, I believe it is exactly the right approach for now. It has been obvious all season how nervous we get playing at home, as soon as we have a setback the players go into their shells and take the safe options. Sending them out with some self belief and a bit of fire in their bellies will surely serve us better.

[Clampy]

Sherwood has had a great start and I think he'll keep us up but anyone getting a little tired of the Spurs/I saved Harry Kane stories? I hope we don't have another DOL and what I did at Leeds scenario brewing.

I think Sherwood has a likeable cockiness as opposed to DOL's annoying smugness. And that was my opinion of both men before they joined us. Although I won't pretend I was against DOL when he arrived because I did think he was a decent manager despite his arrogance. By the end it was all I could do not to smash the TV when he appeared.

Agree totally. With DOL, he did from time to time give you the impression that we should have been grateful that he was our manager. Sherwood comes across as being grateful that he's here.

[passport1]

Isnt he being asked about Kane by journaists ? I don't think he is volunteering an opinion,

[Clampy]

Isnt he being asked about Kane by journaists ? I don't think he is volunteering an opinion,

It is also the same week that he's been called into the england squad for the first time. I don't see a problem with it personally.

[Monty]

It's more about what might happen and why. And why is it a topic for discussion? Well, because it's a thread discussing the manager, TV, his strengths and weaknesses, and some of us feel this weakness might be a problem for him and for us. I don't understand why you have a problem with discussing it.

It does come across to me though that you're trying your very best to find flaws in his management and have done since we appointed him. Has he let down the image of Birmingham yet?

In any case, it seems like you're trying your very best to discuss nothing but other posters. It must get tiring.

I'm not sure what you're driving at with that comment, but if that's your defence for finding little fault's with Sherwood then fair enough.

You mean expressing my opinion on an opinion forum? Shock horror. Whatever next?

[Clampy]

It's more about what might happen and why. And why is it a topic for discussion? Well, because it's a thread discussing the manager, TV, his strengths and weaknesses, and some of us feel this weakness might be a problem for him and for us. I don't understand why you have a problem with discussing it.

It does come across to me though that you're trying your very best to find flaws in his management and have done since we appointed him. Has he let down the image of Birmingham yet?

In any case, it seems like you're trying your very best to discuss nothing but other posters. It must get tiring.

I'm not sure what you're driving at with that comment, but if that's your defence for finding little fault's with Sherwood then fair enough.

You mean expressing my opinion on an opinion forum? Shock horror. Whatever next?

I know. People disagree with opinions as well, it's how it works apparently.

[KRS]

Presumably with Lerners hands off approach now, TS will report directly to Fox and any issues/requests from TS will be dealt with between Fox and Lerner. The relationship between TS and Fox is pretty well established so there should be mutual respect there already, and I would expect the relationship between TS and Lerner to be also courteous and respectful as I doubt there would be much communication between them on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. If a DoF comes in then that person would be expected to develop a good relationship with both TS and Fox, and I suspect that would already be part of the person specification when recruiting for that role.

If the club is sold then its anyones guess what personnel changes will take place, but for the now, they appear to be building and placing good staff in the right positions.

[Monty]

I know. People disagree with opinions as well, it's how it works apparently.

You didn't disagree with my opinion, you just suggested that I'm just looking for things to get concerned about (as opposed to just being concerned). I have no idea what you think about the matter, because you never answered it my points on it - you only had a snide little dig. But you know, whatever makes you feel good. It's your life.

[Dante Lavelli]

Presumably with Lerners hands off approach now, TS will report directly to Fox and any issues/requests from TS will be dealt with between Fox and Lerner. The relationship between TS and Fox is pretty well established so there should be mutual respect there already, and I would expect the relationship between TS and Lerner to be also courteous and respectful as I doubt there would be much communication between them on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. If a DoF comes in then that person would be expected to develop a good relationship with both TS and Fox, and I suspect that would already be part of the person specification when recruiting for that role.

If the club is sold then its anyones guess what personnel changes will take place, but for the now, they appear to be building and placing good staff in the right positions.

I agree with that KRS.  The team is reasonably well insulated from Randy's nuttiness at the moment and Fox (?) seems to be identifying positions/roles within the club which we have previously lacked, and should allow us to grow.  Apart from additional cash, a new owner might actually be a bad thing at the moment, which seems crazy compared to where we were 6-months ago.

With regards to your first point, do we know whether Fox/Sherwood knew each other prior to Villa?  Were they mates back in London?   

[Clampy]

I know. People disagree with opinions as well, it's how it works apparently.

You didn't disagree with my opinion, you just suggested that I'm just looking for things to get concerned about (as opposed to just being concerned). I have no idea what you think about the matter, because you never answered it my points on it - you only had a snide little dig. But you know, whatever makes you feel good. It's your life.

No snide digs from me, just picking people up on certain things. It's been done before and i'm sure i'm not the only one who does it.

If you look back at a few of my posts, you'll see that i've said somewhere that his short term goal is to get us out of trouble and that's all that matters for now. Long term can take a bit of a back seat until we know what division we'll be playing in.

[passport1]

I remain if the opinion that Lerner has been and will continue to be detremental to the success of the club.

I hope that if we stay up he goes.

[Monty]

Right then, good for you. So, if a few of us want to talk about the long-term, why join in? Also, you leap on me but not on Dave, who's saying pretty much exactly the same stuff - why isn't he 'trying his very best to find flaws in his management?' Seems disingenuous, is all.

Edit: that read a little bit self-pitying. Certainly didn't mean it like that. Just feels a bit weird.

[Clampy]

Right then, good for you. So, if a few of us want to talk about the long-term, why join in?

Because I think staying up is the most important thing for now. What happens in the long term will be dictated by what division we're playing in so let's make sure we get ourselves safe first then look at where Timmy will take us.

[Monty]

Well I do agree with that, as it happens. Especially regarding the takeover - if we go down who knows what happens with that, but if we stay up then we might get a good buyer. I never thought it was impossible for Sherwood to keep us up, though his doing better than I feared so far is obviously really good news. However, there's a long way to go and a very tough run of games to boot, so let's see. Dave and I were just wondering where it's all going - nothing sinister.