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Offline Dave

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1065 on: February 18, 2015, 08:13:26 AM »
Sherwood had a short but successful spell at Spurs, he lost his job because they wanted someone with a higher profile.
Pochettino is hardly Fabio Capello or Sven.

I think they just wanted a better manager than the one that they had.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1066 on: February 18, 2015, 08:21:24 AM »
Honestly believe the players had given up on lambert and were not giving 100% for the cause , inexcusable but somewhat understandable after the shocking man management and inept tactics etc of the last 2.5 years . I'm hoping now (even if only short term) they will be galvanised into performing to the limits of their capacity, played in their correct positions and sent out with a clear, positive brief with confidence gradually restored .

Somebody fished out an interview with Martin Laursen from last week, where he said he'd seen some of our recent games where it was obvious that several players weren't giving it their all.

I'd guess most of us have at some time worked for someone who is so poor at their job that regardless of how good you are at your own job, and your own professional pride, at some point your own performance starts to drop off, as the desire to work for the manager just isn't there any more.

Once you've lost faith in the manager it's difficult to get it back and the only remedy is either a new job or a new manager.

Despite some individuals giving cause to doubt it, footballers are human too.

For what it's worth, I think short term, just the boost of a new manager with a bit of enthusiasm will be enough to get this squad over the line. There really is some dross in this league and our squad is definitely one of the better ones in the bottom half so even some half decent performances should get the job done. 

I wouldn't be surprised if we're wondering how long he'll last by time we get to Christmas though.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1067 on: February 18, 2015, 08:29:18 AM »
Agree, I'm relatively confident short term he can keep us up with his enthusiasm and the single factor he isn't lambert. Next season is another story.
Could all go pear shaped this term of course . When we lose a game and if he starts ripping into some individuals (his style still?) we will see.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1068 on: February 18, 2015, 08:44:11 AM »
Sherwood had a short but successful spell at Spurs, he lost his job because they wanted someone with a higher profile.
Pochettino is hardly Fabio Capello or Sven.

I think they just wanted a better manager than the one that they had.

What happens if Spurs finish 6th this season as well ?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1069 on: February 18, 2015, 09:11:25 AM »
Sherwood had a short but successful spell at Spurs, he lost his job because they wanted someone with a higher profile.
Pochettino is hardly Fabio Capello or Sven.

I think they just wanted a better manager than the one that they had.

What happens if Spurs finish 6th this season as well ?
Which they will

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1070 on: February 18, 2015, 09:13:27 AM »
Sherwood had a short but successful spell at Spurs, he lost his job because they wanted someone with a higher profile.
Pochettino is hardly Fabio Capello or Sven.

I think they just wanted a better manager than the one that they had.

What happens if Spurs finish 6th this season as well ?
What if they do?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1071 on: February 18, 2015, 09:17:27 AM »
Sherwood had a short but successful spell at Spurs, he lost his job because they wanted someone with a higher profile.
Pochettino is hardly Fabio Capello or Sven.

I think they just wanted a better manager than the one that they had.

I thought at the time though that Sherwood had done enough to be given a transfer window.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1072 on: February 18, 2015, 09:44:15 AM »
Sherwood had a short but successful spell at Spurs, he lost his job because they wanted someone with a higher profile.
Pochettino is hardly Fabio Capello or Sven.

I think they just wanted a better manager than the one that they had.

What happens if Spurs finish 6th this season as well ?
What if they do?

Well is he no better than Sherwood?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1073 on: February 18, 2015, 09:49:55 AM »
Shocking. I am beginning to wish Sherwood had been appointed sooner as I still think we have left it too late. Saturday will be a major factor in determining our survival in the top flight.

Have to agree with this Lee.  Minimum of 15 points is a very tough ask for us if you put it in the context of our season so far. 

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1074 on: February 18, 2015, 09:54:05 AM »
Sherwood had a short but successful spell at Spurs, he lost his job because they wanted someone with a higher profile.
Pochettino is hardly Fabio Capello or Sven.

I think they just wanted a better manager than the one that they had.

What happens if Spurs finish 6th this season as well ?
What if they do?

Well is he no better than Sherwood?

Is Koeman better than Pochettino if they finish above Southamptons 8th last season? Or has he benefited from what the previous manager had put in place?

I'd say it's a bit more complicated than just if you finish higher you've done a better job. Did MON do a better job for his club than any manager finishing below 6th at the time?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1075 on: February 18, 2015, 09:54:12 AM »
Honestly believe the players had given up on lambert and were not giving 100% for the cause , inexcusable but somewhat understandable after the shocking man management and inept tactics etc of the last 2.5 years . I'm hoping now (even if only short term) they will be galvanised into performing to the limits of their capacity, played in their correct positions and sent out with a clear, positive brief with confidence gradually restored .

Somebody fished out an interview with Martin Laursen from last week, where he said he'd seen some of our recent games where it was obvious that several players weren't giving it their all.

I'd guess most of us have at some time worked for someone who is so poor at their job that regardless of how good you are at your own job, and your own professional pride, at some point your own performance starts to drop off, as the desire to work for the manager just isn't there any more.

Once you've lost faith in the manager it's difficult to get it back and the only remedy is either a new job or a new manager.

Despite some individuals giving cause to doubt it, footballers are human too.

For what it's worth, I think short term, just the boost of a new manager with a bit of enthusiasm will be enough to get this squad over the line. There really is some dross in this league and our squad is definitely one of the better ones in the bottom half so even some half decent performances should get the job done. 

I wouldn't be surprised if we're wondering how long he'll last by time we get to Christmas though.

You may be right. Of course we hope for success long term but he may not last the course. Those of us older supporters see a lot of Tommy Docherty in him. Not as high profile as The Doc was at the time but definitely the type needed short term.

If he gets off to a flying start Saturday the fans will be with him. However if it is a poor performance and a win for Stoke people will start asking questions even at this early stage of his tenure.

And that is unfair on the bloke.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1076 on: February 18, 2015, 09:54:19 AM »
Shocking. I am beginning to wish Sherwood had been appointed sooner as I still think we have left it too late. Saturday will be a major factor in determining our survival in the top flight.

Have to agree with this Lee.  Minimum of 15 points is a very tough ask for us if you put it in the context of our season so far. 
I have to agree with this, 15 points is a massive ask.
BUT....this squad has massively underperformed, particularly over the last few months, so you would hope that it won't take too much to get them playing somewhere near their potential, which 'should' be enough to see off some of those teams around us.   

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1077 on: February 18, 2015, 09:58:40 AM »
I honestly don't think it will take 38 pts again to stay up, more like 36 because there are so many teams clumped together around the same points. 4 wins is easily achievable with the players we have and if by some sort of voodoo he can sort out how we perform at home I could see us winning 4 home games by the end of the season.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1078 on: February 18, 2015, 09:59:19 AM »
Stoke are badly hit by injuries and looked like they were on the beach already against Blackburn, so this is a real opportunity for us. We really need to win the game.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #1079 on: February 18, 2015, 10:01:00 AM »
Shocking. I am beginning to wish Sherwood had been appointed sooner as I still think we have left it too late. Saturday will be a major factor in determining our survival in the top flight.

Have to agree with this Lee.  Minimum of 15 points is a very tough ask for us if you put it in the context of our season so far. 
I have to agree with this, 15 points is a massive ask.
BUT....this squad has massively underperformed, particularly over the last few months, so you would hope that it won't take too much to get them playing somewhere near their potential, which 'should' be enough to see off some of those teams around us.   
I like to just focus on getting getting one point more than QPR do and at least as many as Leicester and Burnley. That to me sounds very achievable.

 


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