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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #870 on: February 16, 2015, 11:25:13 AM »
Well just trust me

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #871 on: February 16, 2015, 11:26:59 AM »
'Let's throw some punches'
Last Updated: 11:16 16/02/15


New Aston Villa manager Tim Sherwood says he is planning to install a more attacking approach at the club in an attempt to avoid relegation.

Villa slipped into the Premier League's bottom three after defeat at Hull last week, leading to the sacking of Paul Lambert.

Former Spurs boss Sherwood was named the new manager on Saturday and watched Sunday’s 2-1 FA Cup win over Leicester from the stands, although he did visit the dressing room at half-time.

He will now assume full command ahead of this weekend’s match at home to Stoke and feels Villa need to start playing in a more aggressive fashion.

“I was only looking from the outside but they have looked a little bit tentative,” said the 46-year-old. “I think they need to play on the front foot a little bit more.

“You are going to win games, you are going to lose games between now and the end of the season.

“But let’s have a go fighting and start throwing a few punches ourselves. When I came here (Villa Park) as a player, it was a difficult place to come and get results.

“I want to turn this place back into a fortress again, especially between now and the end of the season. It is very, very important that this club stays in the Premier League.”

Sherwood has been linked with several jobs since his departure from Spurs at the end of last season but says it was an easy decision to make his return to management with Villa.

“This is a fantastic opportunity, it is a huge football club,” he said. “When I got the call asking if I would be interested in coming to present to Aston Villa, it was a no-brainer.

“It was about seeing if they liked what I said. Fortunately, they did, and now I’m here. I said yes, I’ll take the job, and we will negotiate afterwards.”

Key forward Christian Benteke has scored just three times this season and Sherwood says a revival in form for the Belgium international would be a huge plus in the battle for survival.

“I remember playing against Christian Benteke as a manager and I know what a handful he can be,” said Sherwood. “We need to get him back to that.

“If he scores goals, it will breed confidence, and the rest will follow.

“This is certainly not a one-man team but he is going to be an important part of it because we know what he can be.

“We need to try and see if he can re-capture his form, and I’m sure we can get him back firing.

“He is going to be a very important part of this squad going forward, as are others.

“There are a lot of big names in this squad and none of them want to get relegated, no one does.

“It would hurt them, to drop into the Championship. We have got to make sure that does not happen.”

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #874 on: February 16, 2015, 12:01:31 PM »
Not madly keen that he said the players can play 'off the cuff'. I've often thought that our biggest problem is too great a reliance on making-it-up-as-we-go-along type football, and not enough planning. However, they've certainly been playing within themselves for practically the whole season, so if he can get them to open up a bit and believe in themselves, that might well keep us up, and we'll cross the other bridge when we come to it.

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« Reply #875 on: February 16, 2015, 12:04:05 PM »

“I was only looking from the outside but they have looked a little bit tentative,”

A bit of an understatement to say the least. I like the talk of 'throwing a few punches ourselves'. Yesterday showed what can happen just by playing balls forward and getting a few midfielders around the box, hopefully we'll be at least worth watching now.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #876 on: February 16, 2015, 12:07:49 PM »
It's not going to be a chess game is it.  Still, Keegan almost won the title with not much more to offer than boundless enthusiasm.

If he keeps us up, sees us into mid-table and keeps us there until such time as the sale goes through then it'll be a job well done.  And if he can chuck in some big wins along the way so much the better.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #877 on: February 16, 2015, 12:08:09 PM »
You can see why he can wind up certain players but he does speak his mind...this from late 2014

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x294yy5_sherwood-talks-spurs_sport

Ouch! Pretty strong stuff. He certainly has an opinion and obviously feels strongly about over priced/under performing glamour signings from the continent.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #878 on: February 16, 2015, 12:14:26 PM »
This made me laugh.. especially the last line.

Was an English chancer really the best Villa could do?

There is a school of thought among some English ex-footballers, pundits and managers that English managers don't get treated with the same respect that foreigners do: the Sam Allardici argument.

This has always flown in the face of all the evidence, and the career of Tim Sherwood is the clincher.

If a foreigner had Sherwood's record, there is no way on earth that he would be getting the job at Aston Villa. Sherwood was manager of Spurs - in itself a position he would never, ever have got if he came from Buenos Aires rather than Borehamwood - for just 28 matches. And then he got sacked. Now he's the best man to save one of England's greatest (and most screwed-up) clubs from relegation? Seven League Titles, seven FA Cups, a European Cup… and this is the best they could do?

Sherwood's job will be made the harder because the Villa chief executive Tom Fox is also inexperienced; and the club are currently advertising for a director of football operations. Will that person be working above or below Sherwood? If it's below, what sort of experienced operator would choose to be under Sherwood? He is also, at time of writing, looking for an assistant.

At the absolute minimum, it's a big gamble. So why have Villa taken it? What does Tim Sherwood bring?

Sherwood has become something of a totem for ex-players in England. What he has, in spades, is a bunch of noisy and high profile mates in the media. Alan Shearer, Paul Merson and Jamie Redknapp are just three who have been touting him.

The press are keen for him to get the job because he's permanently peeved and angry; and likely to do and say things he shouldn't. That wins every time over a sensible technocrat. He also gets how to talk to the media, in a way that the man he replaced at Tottenham, Andre Villas Boas, never did.

Shearer was stating Sherwood's claims on the BBC yesterday. "We saw at Spurs that he is not afraid to ruffle feathers and upset people," said the England great. Translation: he shouted at the fancy foreign types and kicked them in five-a-side matches where possible.

Football has made vast leaps in terms of conditioning and preparation over the last few years, but for English players and indeed fans of a certain vintage, there's just nothing better than yelling at some Portuguese glove-wearing poseur in the Queen's English. They don't like it up 'em.

The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year

This is not to say that getting in people's faces is Sherwood's only skill. Far from it. Professor Merson had also done his homework on the debate, commenting: "Tim doesn't mind throwing younger players into the team, as we saw during his time at Spurs."

"Selecting slightly younger players" might seem like a bit of a thin basis for a professional reputation, but if it's good enough for Merse, then who can argue with that? If only the likes of Ancelotti, Van Gaal and Mourinho would cotton on to the idea of picking young players, they could really go places. Come off it, Merse,

In addition to having a sizeable cheerleading squad in the world of punditry, Sherwood is a determined and disciplined self-publicist. His method so far has largely involved staring at the camera as if he is about to chin it, and telling everyone who will listen how good he is at managing. Sunday's game with Leicester was a case in point, when a few half-time pearls of wisdom in an advisory, popping-in capacity apparently won them the game.

If you're a chancer, you need a good bedrock of support, which Sherwood has. You need a gimmick, like the gillet. You need a bit of charm and a knack for the grand gesture, which he showed he definitely has, with the Adebayor salute. You also need a message that is simple and alluring and anyone can grasp. In Sherwood's case, that's a back-to-basics get stuck in, hit the big man and don't take any prisoners. The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year, I guarantee you.

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« Reply #879 on: February 16, 2015, 12:23:06 PM »
Not madly keen that he said the players can play 'off the cuff'. I've often thought that our biggest problem is too great a reliance on making-it-up-as-we-go-along type football, and not enough planning. However, they've certainly been playing within themselves for practically the whole season, so if he can get them to open up a bit and believe in themselves, that might well keep us up, and we'll cross the other bridge when we come to it.

I think what he more means is that the last 10+ games certainly the way we play has been so formulaic that everyone knows what we are going to do as soon as we step on the pitch, the players haven't tried to do anything different they've stuck to a rigid plan, pass sideways pass sideways give it to the full back pass inside, very predictable and very easy to play against.

What we need is to mix it up, players take a risk, try to beat a man, get up and around Benteke, not just religiously stick to a plan they've been given at the start of the match and brainlessly go though the motions. The players need to take a bit more responsibility on their shoulders to make things happen.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #880 on: February 16, 2015, 12:29:30 PM »
This made me laugh.. especially the last line.

Was an English chancer really the best Villa could do?

There is a school of thought among some English ex-footballers, pundits and managers that English managers don't get treated with the same respect that foreigners do: the Sam Allardici argument.

This has always flown in the face of all the evidence, and the career of Tim Sherwood is the clincher.

If a foreigner had Sherwood's record, there is no way on earth that he would be getting the job at Aston Villa. Sherwood was manager of Spurs - in itself a position he would never, ever have got if he came from Buenos Aires rather than Borehamwood - for just 28 matches. And then he got sacked. Now he's the best man to save one of England's greatest (and most screwed-up) clubs from relegation? Seven League Titles, seven FA Cups, a European Cup… and this is the best they could do?

Sherwood's job will be made the harder because the Villa chief executive Tom Fox is also inexperienced; and the club are currently advertising for a director of football operations. Will that person be working above or below Sherwood? If it's below, what sort of experienced operator would choose to be under Sherwood? He is also, at time of writing, looking for an assistant.

At the absolute minimum, it's a big gamble. So why have Villa taken it? What does Tim Sherwood bring?

Sherwood has become something of a totem for ex-players in England. What he has, in spades, is a bunch of noisy and high profile mates in the media. Alan Shearer, Paul Merson and Jamie Redknapp are just three who have been touting him.

The press are keen for him to get the job because he's permanently peeved and angry; and likely to do and say things he shouldn't. That wins every time over a sensible technocrat. He also gets how to talk to the media, in a way that the man he replaced at Tottenham, Andre Villas Boas, never did.

Shearer was stating Sherwood's claims on the BBC yesterday. "We saw at Spurs that he is not afraid to ruffle feathers and upset people," said the England great. Translation: he shouted at the fancy foreign types and kicked them in five-a-side matches where possible.

Football has made vast leaps in terms of conditioning and preparation over the last few years, but for English players and indeed fans of a certain vintage, there's just nothing better than yelling at some Portuguese glove-wearing poseur in the Queen's English. They don't like it up 'em.

The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year

This is not to say that getting in people's faces is Sherwood's only skill. Far from it. Professor Merson had also done his homework on the debate, commenting: "Tim doesn't mind throwing younger players into the team, as we saw during his time at Spurs."

"Selecting slightly younger players" might seem like a bit of a thin basis for a professional reputation, but if it's good enough for Merse, then who can argue with that? If only the likes of Ancelotti, Van Gaal and Mourinho would cotton on to the idea of picking young players, they could really go places. Come off it, Merse,

In addition to having a sizeable cheerleading squad in the world of punditry, Sherwood is a determined and disciplined self-publicist. His method so far has largely involved staring at the camera as if he is about to chin it, and telling everyone who will listen how good he is at managing. Sunday's game with Leicester was a case in point, when a few half-time pearls of wisdom in an advisory, popping-in capacity apparently won them the game.

If you're a chancer, you need a good bedrock of support, which Sherwood has. You need a gimmick, like the gillet. You need a bit of charm and a knack for the grand gesture, which he showed he definitely has, with the Adebayor salute. You also need a message that is simple and alluring and anyone can grasp. In Sherwood's case, that's a back-to-basics get stuck in, hit the big man and don't take any prisoners. The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year, I guarantee you.

It's just a hatchet job from line one. He did a better job at Spurs than AVB, no doubt. He's not a massive name, so what, neither are we anymore. We need enthusiasm and we need energy, he will provide it. He won't provide Mourinho style tactical nuances but then we are trying to stay up not win the Champions League. Basically the bloke who wrote the article doesn't like him so picks out meaningless things like the gillet to bash him. The Benfica manager row, he was taking the piss and Sherwood took offence to it, he wasn't going to back down, good for him. It's about fucking time we had someone stand up for our club you know, instead of being the butt of the medias jokes, good old Villa 0, no shots since Jesus how funny. If this is the guy to do it and we stay up and have a bit of pride and passion about us again then he's done a bloody good job for me and he's going to get my backing.

Spurs ponces.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #881 on: February 16, 2015, 12:31:32 PM »
You're missing the point. It's a hachet job on TV pundits and the other idiots in the press.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #882 on: February 16, 2015, 12:46:17 PM »
Not madly keen that he said the players can play 'off the cuff'. I've often thought that our biggest problem is too great a reliance on making-it-up-as-we-go-along type football, and not enough planning. However, they've certainly been playing within themselves for practically the whole season, so if he can get them to open up a bit and believe in themselves, that might well keep us up, and we'll cross the other bridge when we come to it.

I think what he more means is that the last 10+ games certainly the way we play has been so formulaic that everyone knows what we are going to do as soon as we step on the pitch, the players haven't tried to do anything different they've stuck to a rigid plan, pass sideways pass sideways give it to the full back pass inside, very predictable and very easy to play against.

What we need is to mix it up, players take a risk, try to beat a man, get up and around Benteke, not just religiously stick to a plan they've been given at the start of the match and brainlessly go though the motions. The players need to take a bit more responsibility on their shoulders to make things happen.
This.
Spot on!

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #883 on: February 16, 2015, 01:03:00 PM »
This made me laugh.. especially the last line.

Was an English chancer really the best Villa could do?

There is a school of thought among some English ex-footballers, pundits and managers that English managers don't get treated with the same respect that foreigners do: the Sam Allardici argument.

This has always flown in the face of all the evidence, and the career of Tim Sherwood is the clincher.

If a foreigner had Sherwood's record, there is no way on earth that he would be getting the job at Aston Villa. Sherwood was manager of Spurs - in itself a position he would never, ever have got if he came from Buenos Aires rather than Borehamwood - for just 28 matches. And then he got sacked. Now he's the best man to save one of England's greatest (and most screwed-up) clubs from relegation? Seven League Titles, seven FA Cups, a European Cup… and this is the best they could do?

Sherwood's job will be made the harder because the Villa chief executive Tom Fox is also inexperienced; and the club are currently advertising for a director of football operations. Will that person be working above or below Sherwood? If it's below, what sort of experienced operator would choose to be under Sherwood? He is also, at time of writing, looking for an assistant.

At the absolute minimum, it's a big gamble. So why have Villa taken it? What does Tim Sherwood bring?

Sherwood has become something of a totem for ex-players in England. What he has, in spades, is a bunch of noisy and high profile mates in the media. Alan Shearer, Paul Merson and Jamie Redknapp are just three who have been touting him.

The press are keen for him to get the job because he's permanently peeved and angry; and likely to do and say things he shouldn't. That wins every time over a sensible technocrat. He also gets how to talk to the media, in a way that the man he replaced at Tottenham, Andre Villas Boas, never did.

Shearer was stating Sherwood's claims on the BBC yesterday. "We saw at Spurs that he is not afraid to ruffle feathers and upset people," said the England great. Translation: he shouted at the fancy foreign types and kicked them in five-a-side matches where possible.

Football has made vast leaps in terms of conditioning and preparation over the last few years, but for English players and indeed fans of a certain vintage, there's just nothing better than yelling at some Portuguese glove-wearing poseur in the Queen's English. They don't like it up 'em.

The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year

This is not to say that getting in people's faces is Sherwood's only skill. Far from it. Professor Merson had also done his homework on the debate, commenting: "Tim doesn't mind throwing younger players into the team, as we saw during his time at Spurs."

"Selecting slightly younger players" might seem like a bit of a thin basis for a professional reputation, but if it's good enough for Merse, then who can argue with that? If only the likes of Ancelotti, Van Gaal and Mourinho would cotton on to the idea of picking young players, they could really go places. Come off it, Merse,

In addition to having a sizeable cheerleading squad in the world of punditry, Sherwood is a determined and disciplined self-publicist. His method so far has largely involved staring at the camera as if he is about to chin it, and telling everyone who will listen how good he is at managing. Sunday's game with Leicester was a case in point, when a few half-time pearls of wisdom in an advisory, popping-in capacity apparently won them the game.

If you're a chancer, you need a good bedrock of support, which Sherwood has. You need a gimmick, like the gillet. You need a bit of charm and a knack for the grand gesture, which he showed he definitely has, with the Adebayor salute. You also need a message that is simple and alluring and anyone can grasp. In Sherwood's case, that's a back-to-basics get stuck in, hit the big man and don't take any prisoners. The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year, I guarantee you.

What a load of bollocks.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #884 on: February 16, 2015, 01:03:53 PM »
This made me laugh.. especially the last line.

Was an English chancer really the best Villa could do?

There is a school of thought among some English ex-footballers, pundits and managers that English managers don't get treated with the same respect that foreigners do: the Sam Allardici argument.

This has always flown in the face of all the evidence, and the career of Tim Sherwood is the clincher.

If a foreigner had Sherwood's record, there is no way on earth that he would be getting the job at Aston Villa. Sherwood was manager of Spurs - in itself a position he would never, ever have got if he came from Buenos Aires rather than Borehamwood - for just 28 matches. And then he got sacked. Now he's the best man to save one of England's greatest (and most screwed-up) clubs from relegation? Seven League Titles, seven FA Cups, a European Cup… and this is the best they could do?

Sherwood's job will be made the harder because the Villa chief executive Tom Fox is also inexperienced; and the club are currently advertising for a director of football operations. Will that person be working above or below Sherwood? If it's below, what sort of experienced operator would choose to be under Sherwood? He is also, at time of writing, looking for an assistant.

At the absolute minimum, it's a big gamble. So why have Villa taken it? What does Tim Sherwood bring?

Sherwood has become something of a totem for ex-players in England. What he has, in spades, is a bunch of noisy and high profile mates in the media. Alan Shearer, Paul Merson and Jamie Redknapp are just three who have been touting him.

The press are keen for him to get the job because he's permanently peeved and angry; and likely to do and say things he shouldn't. That wins every time over a sensible technocrat. He also gets how to talk to the media, in a way that the man he replaced at Tottenham, Andre Villas Boas, never did.

Shearer was stating Sherwood's claims on the BBC yesterday. "We saw at Spurs that he is not afraid to ruffle feathers and upset people," said the England great. Translation: he shouted at the fancy foreign types and kicked them in five-a-side matches where possible.

Football has made vast leaps in terms of conditioning and preparation over the last few years, but for English players and indeed fans of a certain vintage, there's just nothing better than yelling at some Portuguese glove-wearing poseur in the Queen's English. They don't like it up 'em.

The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year

This is not to say that getting in people's faces is Sherwood's only skill. Far from it. Professor Merson had also done his homework on the debate, commenting: "Tim doesn't mind throwing younger players into the team, as we saw during his time at Spurs."

"Selecting slightly younger players" might seem like a bit of a thin basis for a professional reputation, but if it's good enough for Merse, then who can argue with that? If only the likes of Ancelotti, Van Gaal and Mourinho would cotton on to the idea of picking young players, they could really go places. Come off it, Merse,

In addition to having a sizeable cheerleading squad in the world of punditry, Sherwood is a determined and disciplined self-publicist. His method so far has largely involved staring at the camera as if he is about to chin it, and telling everyone who will listen how good he is at managing. Sunday's game with Leicester was a case in point, when a few half-time pearls of wisdom in an advisory, popping-in capacity apparently won them the game.

If you're a chancer, you need a good bedrock of support, which Sherwood has. You need a gimmick, like the gillet. You need a bit of charm and a knack for the grand gesture, which he showed he definitely has, with the Adebayor salute. You also need a message that is simple and alluring and anyone can grasp. In Sherwood's case, that's a back-to-basics get stuck in, hit the big man and don't take any prisoners. The boys in the studio will be hailing him for England manager within a year, I guarantee you.

It's just a hatchet job from line one. He did a better job at Spurs than AVB, no doubt. He's not a massive name, so what, neither are we anymore. We need enthusiasm and we need energy, he will provide it. He won't provide Mourinho style tactical nuances but then we are trying to stay up not win the Champions League. Basically the bloke who wrote the article doesn't like him so picks out meaningless things like the gillet to bash him. The Benfica manager row, he was taking the piss and Sherwood took offence to it, he wasn't going to back down, good for him. It's about fucking time we had someone stand up for our club you know, instead of being the butt of the medias jokes, good old Villa 0, no shots since Jesus how funny. If this is the guy to do it and we stay up and have a bit of pride and passion about us again then he's done a bloody good job for me and he's going to get my backing.

Spurs ponces.

Well said.

 


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