Again, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on February 14, 2015, 11:34:38 PMIn all this hoo haa I think a few people are getting confused that thinking it is a bad appointment and Sherwood is a twat means you're in some way not going to support him or want him to do well.As if you're not meant to have an opinion on anything he's done in the game prior to today.I think it's s mental appointment and Sherwood strikes me as dim and unqualified, but I'll want him to do well as much as the next man does. As I am sure all the other unconvinced will.I agree with you, and I was underwhelmed/bewildered by the appointment, but don't you think that the ferocity of some of the reaction has been a bit like chanting divorce statistics from the back of the church at a wedding?Everyone gets it, it's not ideal, but it's day one. Maybe lighten up a bit.
In all this hoo haa I think a few people are getting confused that thinking it is a bad appointment and Sherwood is a twat means you're in some way not going to support him or want him to do well.As if you're not meant to have an opinion on anything he's done in the game prior to today.I think it's s mental appointment and Sherwood strikes me as dim and unqualified, but I'll want him to do well as much as the next man does. As I am sure all the other unconvinced will.
Quote from: Shrek on February 14, 2015, 11:01:52 PMQuote from: passitsideways on February 14, 2015, 10:37:24 PMQuote from: ozzjim on February 14, 2015, 10:15:51 PMIt seems the tactically inept Sherwood got significantly more out of them, than the much lauded and highly thought of tactical genius, modern progressive manager that is AVB. Except he didn't, given that AVB had the better win % over his tenure.At least get your bloody facts right.Sherwood had a better win % than AVB, fact and that's with AVB having the world class, most expensive player in history for a whole season.Sherwood got more out of the team than AVB did and improved then quite a lot.Let's hope he can do the same for us.Oh yes, get my facts right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Sherwood#Managerial_statistics - 50% in all compshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Villas-Boas#Managerial_statistics - 55% in all compsAVB had Bale, but Sherwood had better squad depth (and it's not like Eriksen is some mediocre player anyway).Someone above made a post about Sherwood having a higher PL win %, and I'm willing to accept that. But frankly, I'd much rather prefer the record in all competitions. I don't believe in this "prioritise the league" nonsense, especially when you had a deep squad of players like Spurs had (plus they were pretty much out of the CL race when he took over anyway).Anyway, the win % was presented as a response to the suggestion that Sherwood got "significantly more" out of the Spurs players than AVB. That's quite clearly not true, because the results were pretty much the same. regardless of what win % you look at.
Quote from: passitsideways on February 14, 2015, 10:37:24 PMQuote from: ozzjim on February 14, 2015, 10:15:51 PMIt seems the tactically inept Sherwood got significantly more out of them, than the much lauded and highly thought of tactical genius, modern progressive manager that is AVB. Except he didn't, given that AVB had the better win % over his tenure.At least get your bloody facts right.Sherwood had a better win % than AVB, fact and that's with AVB having the world class, most expensive player in history for a whole season.Sherwood got more out of the team than AVB did and improved then quite a lot.Let's hope he can do the same for us.
Quote from: ozzjim on February 14, 2015, 10:15:51 PMIt seems the tactically inept Sherwood got significantly more out of them, than the much lauded and highly thought of tactical genius, modern progressive manager that is AVB. Except he didn't, given that AVB had the better win % over his tenure.
It seems the tactically inept Sherwood got significantly more out of them, than the much lauded and highly thought of tactical genius, modern progressive manager that is AVB.
It is disappointing that we never seem to be able to make an exciting appointment. It's always either expected, disappointing, or expected and disappointing. I hope Sherwood is a success, but I think a lot of that will depend on if we can get a good coaching staff. I just hope in future we can make a surprising and ambitious appointment.
Sir graham was only 42 years old when he joined us. Seems remarkable to think he's now 70.
it's a football forum where people talk about football. Nobody is busy beating up their kids or burning effigies over it.
Isn't any comparison of Sherwood and AVB somewhat hindered by the fact that Sherwood has a managerial career that consists of 22 matches, whereas AVB has one which consists of several seasons?I don't really see how you can really make a legitimate comparison on the basis of such a small sample of matches.
Quote from: VillaiNorseVillan on February 14, 2015, 11:55:04 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on February 14, 2015, 11:34:38 PMIn all this hoo haa I think a few people are getting confused that thinking it is a bad appointment and Sherwood is a twat means you're in some way not going to support him or want him to do well.As if you're not meant to have an opinion on anything he's done in the game prior to today.I think it's s mental appointment and Sherwood strikes me as dim and unqualified, but I'll want him to do well as much as the next man does. As I am sure all the other unconvinced will.I agree with you, and I was underwhelmed/bewildered by the appointment, but don't you think that the ferocity of some of the reaction has been a bit like chanting divorce statistics from the back of the church at a wedding?Everyone gets it, it's not ideal, but it's day one. Maybe lighten up a bit.What else do you expect people to do? We've just appointed a new manager. Of course people are going to have a lot to say about it. We've spent day after day of the season so far having plenty to say about Lambert. Why would that be any different now?Maybe you should lighten up a bit?it's a football forum where people talk about football. Nobody is busy beating up their kids or burning effigies over it.