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Offline onje_villa

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #465 on: February 14, 2015, 06:46:35 PM »
Some people on here need a reality check. It's like some of you just want a chance to moan and aren't happy unless you can vent your frustrations and turn everything into a negative. How's about we don't bury the bloke before he's had a fucking chance. They have done exactly the right thing, moved quickly and got someone in to give us a fighting chance. Things will get better under him I guarentee that. Maybe he has made some mistakes but he is a young manager who the players will respect from his playing days. He will have my full support until I deem he has had a fair crack at it. Welcome to the Villa, boss.

I'm completely with you Matt. The board deserve an enormous amount of stick for putting us in the position we are in but in it we are. I reckon there's enough there to get behind the new man and not a great deal of better options out there given the time constraints and current league position. Good luck Tim.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #466 on: February 14, 2015, 06:51:40 PM »
Welcome to Villa Park, Tim Sherwood. Keep us up in the first instance and also see if you can oversee a triumph in the FA Cup. For starters, a few forward passes to the correct players, a few shots on/off target, a couple of goals and some points on the board would be nice.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #467 on: February 14, 2015, 06:51:49 PM »
Just read a comment that we both, i.e. club and manager, have a point to prove so could be a good fit. Which makes some sense to me.

Point to prove? Thought he was the Premier League's most sought after manager?

"One of the". It's quite clearly PR guff in any case. I think he has got a point to prove. It's only  my opinion but I think he has ran his mouth a couple of times which has probably given people negative preconceptions about his ability. I think there is a good man manager and motivating coach in there which is exactly what we need. I don't think there is anyone who  could disagree we have the talent and squad to stay up comfortably
Who will be to blame if we go down?


Miserable pessimists!

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #468 on: February 14, 2015, 06:52:51 PM »
It's likely I'd be underwhelmed by almost any appointment we could make, if I'm honest. However, I really think this is an extremely poor decision. We could well stay up still, the squad of players is good and often any change is refreshing enough to galvanise a team. In addition, Sherwood is certainly an ebullient character, and often down at the bottom what you need is a wave of emotion to carry you through.

However, unless Sherwood has changed drastically in the last few months, I think the long-term will be extremely disappointing. The guy is very arrogant, and seemingly incapable of acknowledging that he's made any mistakes, preferring to blame the players 'lack of character' if he's made a catastrophic tactical fuck-up - and he makes plenty of those, as he's also, in the words of one Spurs fan, 'proudly and aggressively ignorant of the basics of football tactics'.

Why do we keep appointing this kind of manager? Why always the thoughtless passion-mongers? Why do we see smaller clubs around us go for forward-thinking, tactically aware managers, often from abroad, and continue to appoint old-school British guys who don't even have a clue that they don't have a clue? It's really wearying.

I agree with most of this. I don't want a manager a who "will give the players a kick up their backside", allthough that might work in the short term. I want a manager who knows what he is doing. Most of the evidence I've seen so far indicate that Sherwood doesn't.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #469 on: February 14, 2015, 06:54:57 PM »
All this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!

I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?

Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him.

No, I was dead against his appointment. He then said all the right things when he first got here so I got a bit more warm about it. But ultimately, my initial feeling that he was essentially another British plodder was, sadly, proven right.

Richard - I just asked a question, it wasn't meant bitchily or anything. I just genuinely don't know what that phrase means in practical terms.

No, I understand Monty. I guess we are all faced with giving people a chance in our work etc whom we don't necessarily like and had no influence over appointing. I've certainly had to and sometimes it works out and they prove you wrong, other times your concerns are confirmed

I suppose giving someone a chance while disliking that person means not continually bringing up that you dislike the person while he does his job. Otherwise how does your opinion ever truly change?

TV has turned into the Buddha of H&V. Wise words there.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #470 on: February 14, 2015, 06:56:18 PM »
The best thing about Tim Sherwood? You can actually understand him when he speaks! Unlike Mr Mumbles!

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #471 on: February 14, 2015, 06:57:23 PM »
In all honesty I couldn't give a Fuck what spurs fans say. I know 2 spurs fans who love him. we've had some big name managers who've upset players so its not exclusively Tim.

Were trying something different so let's go with it.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #472 on: February 14, 2015, 06:58:20 PM »
It seems Sherwood has been the man Fox wanted so he will take the blame if he turns out to be shit. Notice how they left it until trading was over so don't have to worry about new manager wanting to spend money. The more i read and hear about him the more i think of John Gregory, their personalities seem very similar, and i like managers with big egos in charge of footballers with big egos.
I will put my two penneth in here and will predict under Sherwood goals will be seen again at Villa Park.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #473 on: February 14, 2015, 06:58:26 PM »
It's likely I'd be underwhelmed by almost any appointment we could make, if I'm honest. However, I really think this is an extremely poor decision. We could well stay up still, the squad of players is good and often any change is refreshing enough to galvanise a team. In addition, Sherwood is certainly an ebullient character, and often down at the bottom what you need is a wave of emotion to carry you through.

However, unless Sherwood has changed drastically in the last few months, I think the long-term will be extremely disappointing. The guy is very arrogant, and seemingly incapable of acknowledging that he's made any mistakes, preferring to blame the players 'lack of character' if he's made a catastrophic tactical fuck-up - and he makes plenty of those, as he's also, in the words of one Spurs fan, 'proudly and aggressively ignorant of the basics of football tactics'.

Why do we keep appointing this kind of manager? Why always the thoughtless passion-mongers? Why do we see smaller clubs around us go for forward-thinking, tactically aware managers, often from abroad, and continue to appoint old-school British guys who don't even have a clue that they don't have a clue? It's really wearying.

I agree with most of this. I don't want a manager a who "will give the players a kick up their backside", allthough that might work in the short term. I want a manager who knows what he is doing. Most of the evidence I've seen so far indicate that Sherwood doesn't.

Based on?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #474 on: February 14, 2015, 06:58:58 PM »
The really important thing is, can he say "Birmingham" properly?
« Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 07:05:26 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #475 on: February 14, 2015, 07:02:30 PM »
All this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!

I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?

Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him.

No, I was dead against his appointment. He then said all the right things when he first got here so I got a bit more warm about it. But ultimately, my initial feeling that he was essentially another British plodder was, sadly, proven right.

Richard - I just asked a question, it wasn't meant bitchily or anything. I just genuinely don't know what that phrase means in practical terms.

No, I understand Monty. I guess we are all faced with giving people a chance in our work etc whom we don't necessarily like and had no influence over appointing. I've certainly had to and sometimes it works out and they prove you wrong, other times your concerns are confirmed

I suppose giving someone a chance while disliking that person means not continually bringing up that you dislike the person while he does his job. Otherwise how does your opinion ever truly change?

TV has turned into the Buddha of H&V. Wise words there.

Young Damo, take this with you as you fast and pray

"The tongue like a sharp knife… Kills without drawing blood.”- TV

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #476 on: February 14, 2015, 07:04:45 PM »
The really important this is, can he say "Birmingham" properly?

It's what eliminated Curbishley from contention. He didn't make the interview having got lost asking for directions. Nobody knew where Birminem was.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #477 on: February 14, 2015, 07:08:58 PM »
Oh.

Well, welcome Tim. Lets hope for the best.

Offline Damo70

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #478 on: February 14, 2015, 07:09:27 PM »
If Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...

What about the 18 he scored in 11/12?


Is this a trick question? Did he have two very good games away to Cardiff and Swansea?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #479 on: February 14, 2015, 07:10:47 PM »
I'll back him 100%.

Under Lambert we were shagged, a dead cert for relegation.

The Club had to act quickly and there isn't a great deal out there IMO. You can mention all the names you like, we're not an attractive proposition at the moment. His backroom staff will be vitally important too.

I'm looking forward to hearing an honest assessment of a game, not the same drivel rolled out over and over again for years.

Good luck Tim, keep us up and then drive us on!

 


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