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Author Topic: It's not Sherwood!  (Read 729381 times)

Offline richard moore

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #375 on: February 14, 2015, 05:17:14 PM »
If Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...

What about the 18 he scored in 11/12?

Oh, sorry, I must have misheard what they said on the radio, apologies

Offline paulcomben

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #376 on: February 14, 2015, 05:18:42 PM »
Forget about the match scheduled for 3.00pm on Saturday 11 April at White Hart Lane actually taking place then.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #377 on: February 14, 2015, 05:19:04 PM »
Welcome Mr S.  Something had to change, it has and he has my support to try and keep us up.  He may well be the Mr Nasty that's being suggested, so be it there aren't many in the snake pit that is the Premier League that aren't!

Offline Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #378 on: February 14, 2015, 05:19:08 PM »
Spurs fans seem to be saying the obvious. He'll keep us up, sign some shit Spurs players, and be sacked November time.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #379 on: February 14, 2015, 05:19:18 PM »
"The club are excited to have secured the services of one of English football's most highly sought after managers."

Apart from Spurs,QPR and WBA who gave him a swerve.

You missed out Crystal Palace.

And Brighton 😉

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #380 on: February 14, 2015, 05:20:08 PM »
Just read a comment that we both, i.e. club and manager, have a point to prove so could be a good fit. Which makes some sense to me.

Point to prove? Thought he was the Premier League's most sought after manager?

Offline mattjpa

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #381 on: February 14, 2015, 05:20:46 PM »
Again, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.

It's been widely reported that they only interviewed Sherwood.
You said they didn't even look. My point is that you have no idea how many people they have looked at, how many meetings they have had, how many candidates were considered. How do you know they didn't draw up a short list of 15 potential candidates, dedicate a head hunting team to collate information and professional opinions on all of them, have a set of  in depth selection  discussion meetings, whittle it down to a first choice and a second choice. Then Meet their first choice man, hear all the right things and hire him to give him maximum time to sort us out

What is your problem? I said they didn't interview anyone else, as has been reported. For what you're saying to have any validity, it would have to be the case that Tim Sherwood was the best manager to not turn down an interview. If that really is the case, then we're screwed, but somehow I doubt it.
I think that it's worth arguing the point with someone that has made up his mind based on what I can see is hearsay and conjecture. your opinion and posts are extremely negative, I think I am probably in the minority of people on here who are trying to get some positive momentum amongst fans, you quite clearly are in the opposite camp (it's not personal!) if he had a record from his previous club like Lambert has left us with I literally wouldn't have an argument. I honestly think that if the fans don't get behind this guy 100% in all of our remaining matches we are down -in 13 games and no transfer window  he can't change very much apart from confidence and belief the players have in themselves

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #382 on: February 14, 2015, 05:20:54 PM »
Spurs fans seem to be saying the obvious. He'll keep us up, sign some shit Spurs players, and be sacked November time.

In fairness, we have no idea what he's like in the transfer window.  If it's true that he has an eye for a good player, that's promising.

I'd also expect that Spurs shit players are probably better than our shit players.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #383 on: February 14, 2015, 05:21:05 PM »
"The club are excited to have secured the services of one of English football's most highly sought after managers."

Apart from Spurs,QPR and WBA who gave him a swerve.

You missed out Crystal Palace.

And Brighton 😉
Don't think Southampton looked at him at all either. 

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #384 on: February 14, 2015, 05:22:22 PM »
If Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...

What about the 18 he scored in 11/12?

Oh, sorry, I must have misheard what they said on the radio, apologies

Maybe they meant FA Cup. Although that's a bit unfair as bizarrely, he played well over a 100 league games after leaving Boro, but played only 1 FA Cup game for Everton,  and none for Leicester or Blackburn.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #385 on: February 14, 2015, 05:22:45 PM »
I'm sure the fans will be behind the team, and if they're not it'll have nothing to do with me causing 'negative momentum'. My comments are really based on research I've done, which might themselves be unfounded but which I have good cause to believe are not.

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #386 on: February 14, 2015, 05:23:19 PM »
Pros and cons from a Spurs messageboard:

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... [size=78%]If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.[/size]

This last para is absolutely critical

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #387 on: February 14, 2015, 05:25:42 PM »
"The club are excited to have secured the services of one of English football's most highly sought after managers."

Apart from Spurs,QPR and WBA who gave him a swerve.

You missed out Crystal Palace.

And Brighton 😉
Don't think Southampton looked at him at all either. 
So, did QPR, CP, WBA and Brighton decide not consider / hire him, or did he decide that they were not the job for him?
We don't know, do we?

Offline b23

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #388 on: February 14, 2015, 05:27:06 PM »
Ron Saunders seemed a pretty uninspiring choice of Manager when he was recruited.

That didn't turn out too bad though.

I've just been out to get a body warmer as a token gesture of solidarity.

Offline mr woo

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Re: It's Sherwood!
« Reply #389 on: February 14, 2015, 05:27:13 PM »
Pros and cons from a Spurs messageboard:

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Pros:

Good tactician - a couple of shockers where he didn't use a DM, but generally was very good tactically. Versatile in his approach (beat Pochettino twice, using two very different game plans to get the result). A few other examples here - http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwoodgone-o.5527/page-208#post-512241

Good judge of a player - Brought Bentaleb and Kane into the first team squad from the youth team when it was clear he didn't rate Capoue and Soldado from early on. A lot of people really didn't agree with that at the time (remember the whole Bentaleb is Sherwood's lovechild thing?)

Cons:

Man management - Was clear that a lot of his players didn't like him. The team often appeared nervous and regularly capitulated in big games, very few players looked like they were enjoying their football on the pitch. Though he is one of the few managers who has successfully man managed Adebayor

Poor coach - So many sloppy mistakes from the team on the pitch, both in attack and defence. A lot of our players badly regressed under him.

Media handling - Oh god, some of those interviews. Some of those comments. Was an utter laughing stock in the media.


If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwood.6708/page-18#post-669982

I think that's a fair summary, although it doesn't highlight the success he had with the Spurs academy (only mentions bring best young players into the first team). I'm happy with his appointment. A lot happier than I was with the appointment of anyone since MON.

You're happy even though his negative points are poor tactics and questionable man management - probably the two most important charges of a football managers remit?

 


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