Quote from: richard moore on February 14, 2015, 05:10:27 PMIf Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...What about the 18 he scored in 11/12?
If Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...
Quote from: garyfouroaks on February 14, 2015, 02:35:53 PM"The club are excited to have secured the services of one of English football's most highly sought after managers."Apart from Spurs,QPR and WBA who gave him a swerve.You missed out Crystal Palace.
"The club are excited to have secured the services of one of English football's most highly sought after managers."Apart from Spurs,QPR and WBA who gave him a swerve.
Just read a comment that we both, i.e. club and manager, have a point to prove so could be a good fit. Which makes some sense to me.
Quote from: mattjpa on February 14, 2015, 05:03:16 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:51:56 PMQuote from: mattjpa on February 14, 2015, 04:50:43 PMAgain, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.It's been widely reported that they only interviewed Sherwood.You said they didn't even look. My point is that you have no idea how many people they have looked at, how many meetings they have had, how many candidates were considered. How do you know they didn't draw up a short list of 15 potential candidates, dedicate a head hunting team to collate information and professional opinions on all of them, have a set of in depth selection discussion meetings, whittle it down to a first choice and a second choice. Then Meet their first choice man, hear all the right things and hire him to give him maximum time to sort us outWhat is your problem? I said they didn't interview anyone else, as has been reported. For what you're saying to have any validity, it would have to be the case that Tim Sherwood was the best manager to not turn down an interview. If that really is the case, then we're screwed, but somehow I doubt it.
Quote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:51:56 PMQuote from: mattjpa on February 14, 2015, 04:50:43 PMAgain, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.It's been widely reported that they only interviewed Sherwood.You said they didn't even look. My point is that you have no idea how many people they have looked at, how many meetings they have had, how many candidates were considered. How do you know they didn't draw up a short list of 15 potential candidates, dedicate a head hunting team to collate information and professional opinions on all of them, have a set of in depth selection discussion meetings, whittle it down to a first choice and a second choice. Then Meet their first choice man, hear all the right things and hire him to give him maximum time to sort us out
Quote from: mattjpa on February 14, 2015, 04:50:43 PMAgain, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.It's been widely reported that they only interviewed Sherwood.
Again, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.
Spurs fans seem to be saying the obvious. He'll keep us up, sign some shit Spurs players, and be sacked November time.
Quote from: The Sound of Villadelphia on February 14, 2015, 02:39:27 PMQuote from: garyfouroaks on February 14, 2015, 02:35:53 PM"The club are excited to have secured the services of one of English football's most highly sought after managers."Apart from Spurs,QPR and WBA who gave him a swerve.You missed out Crystal Palace.And Brighton 😉
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2015, 05:13:31 PMQuote from: richard moore on February 14, 2015, 05:10:27 PMIf Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...What about the 18 he scored in 11/12?Oh, sorry, I must have misheard what they said on the radio, apologies
Pros and cons from a Spurs messageboard:Quote... [size=78%]If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.[/size]
... [size=78%]If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.[/size]
Quote from: JUAN PABLO on February 14, 2015, 05:19:18 PMQuote from: The Sound of Villadelphia on February 14, 2015, 02:39:27 PMQuote from: garyfouroaks on February 14, 2015, 02:35:53 PM"The club are excited to have secured the services of one of English football's most highly sought after managers."Apart from Spurs,QPR and WBA who gave him a swerve.You missed out Crystal Palace.And Brighton 😉Don't think Southampton looked at him at all either.
Quote from: Tokyo Sexwhale on February 14, 2015, 05:05:59 PMPros and cons from a Spurs messageboard:QuotePros:Good tactician - a couple of shockers where he didn't use a DM, but generally was very good tactically. Versatile in his approach (beat Pochettino twice, using two very different game plans to get the result). A few other examples here - http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwoodgone-o.5527/page-208#post-512241Good judge of a player - Brought Bentaleb and Kane into the first team squad from the youth team when it was clear he didn't rate Capoue and Soldado from early on. A lot of people really didn't agree with that at the time (remember the whole Bentaleb is Sherwood's lovechild thing?)Cons:Man management - Was clear that a lot of his players didn't like him. The team often appeared nervous and regularly capitulated in big games, very few players looked like they were enjoying their football on the pitch. Though he is one of the few managers who has successfully man managed AdebayorPoor coach - So many sloppy mistakes from the team on the pitch, both in attack and defence. A lot of our players badly regressed under him.Media handling - Oh god, some of those interviews. Some of those comments. Was an utter laughing stock in the media.If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwood.6708/page-18#post-669982I think that's a fair summary, although it doesn't highlight the success he had with the Spurs academy (only mentions bring best young players into the first team). I'm happy with his appointment. A lot happier than I was with the appointment of anyone since MON.
Pros and cons from a Spurs messageboard:QuotePros:Good tactician - a couple of shockers where he didn't use a DM, but generally was very good tactically. Versatile in his approach (beat Pochettino twice, using two very different game plans to get the result). A few other examples here - http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwoodgone-o.5527/page-208#post-512241Good judge of a player - Brought Bentaleb and Kane into the first team squad from the youth team when it was clear he didn't rate Capoue and Soldado from early on. A lot of people really didn't agree with that at the time (remember the whole Bentaleb is Sherwood's lovechild thing?)Cons:Man management - Was clear that a lot of his players didn't like him. The team often appeared nervous and regularly capitulated in big games, very few players looked like they were enjoying their football on the pitch. Though he is one of the few managers who has successfully man managed AdebayorPoor coach - So many sloppy mistakes from the team on the pitch, both in attack and defence. A lot of our players badly regressed under him.Media handling - Oh god, some of those interviews. Some of those comments. Was an utter laughing stock in the media.If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwood.6708/page-18#post-669982
Pros:Good tactician - a couple of shockers where he didn't use a DM, but generally was very good tactically. Versatile in his approach (beat Pochettino twice, using two very different game plans to get the result). A few other examples here - http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwoodgone-o.5527/page-208#post-512241Good judge of a player - Brought Bentaleb and Kane into the first team squad from the youth team when it was clear he didn't rate Capoue and Soldado from early on. A lot of people really didn't agree with that at the time (remember the whole Bentaleb is Sherwood's lovechild thing?)Cons:Man management - Was clear that a lot of his players didn't like him. The team often appeared nervous and regularly capitulated in big games, very few players looked like they were enjoying their football on the pitch. Though he is one of the few managers who has successfully man managed AdebayorPoor coach - So many sloppy mistakes from the team on the pitch, both in attack and defence. A lot of our players badly regressed under him.Media handling - Oh god, some of those interviews. Some of those comments. Was an utter laughing stock in the media.If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.