It's not Sherwood!

[puppyfeat]

I'm flabbergasted.  Why a 3.5 year contract?
Is there a worse run club than Villa?

Who cares - the next 13 league games are all that matters right now and if he can get 5 wins out of that then chances are we'll stay up. I'll certainly back him to do that over Lambert who was only taking us one way.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Pros and cons from a Spurs messageboard:

Pros:

Good tactician - a couple of shockers where he didn't use a DM, but generally was very good tactically. Versatile in his approach (beat Pochettino twice, using two very different game plans to get the result). A few other examples here - http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwoodgone-o.5527/page-208#post-512241

Good judge of a player - Brought Bentaleb and Kane into the first team squad from the youth team when it was clear he didn't rate Capoue and Soldado from early on. A lot of people really didn't agree with that at the time (remember the whole Bentaleb is Sherwood's lovechild thing?)

Cons:

Man management - Was clear that a lot of his players didn't like him. The team often appeared nervous and regularly capitulated in big games, very few players looked like they were enjoying their football on the pitch. Though he is one of the few managers who has successfully man managed Adebayor

Poor coach - So many sloppy mistakes from the team on the pitch, both in attack and defence. A lot of our players badly regressed under him.

Media handling - Oh god, some of those interviews. Some of those comments. Was an utter laughing stock in the media.


If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwood.6708/page-18#post-669982

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Again, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.

It's been widely reported that they only interviewed Sherwood.

You said they didn't even look. My point is that you have no idea how many people they have looked at, how many meetings they have had, how many candidates were considered. How do you know they didn't draw up a short list of 15 potential candidates, dedicate a head hunting team to collate information and professional opinions on all of them, have a set of  in depth selection  discussion meetings, whittle it down to a first choice and a second choice. Then Meet their first choice man, hear all the right things and hire him to give him maximum time to sort us out

It wouldn't surprise me if that was true, such is the idiocy of our owners.

[Phil from the upper holte]

If he gets us scoring and we stay up I'll be delighted, if we go down I won't blame him. I'm going to get behind him and see how we go, we wanted Lambert out and we got it.

[Monty]

Again, absolute conjecture. I would bet my house on the fact that a multi million pound company has looked at and considered more than one person for the most important position within its management structure. You however, have made up your mind and seem to believe you have inside knowledge as to how Tottenham Hotspur conduct training and Aston Villa conduct recruitment procedures. I imagine you don't but am happy to be proven wrong. Go for it.

It's been widely reported that they only interviewed Sherwood.

You said they didn't even look. My point is that you have no idea how many people they have looked at, how many meetings they have had, how many candidates were considered. How do you know they didn't draw up a short list of 15 potential candidates, dedicate a head hunting team to collate information and professional opinions on all of them, have a set of  in depth selection  discussion meetings, whittle it down to a first choice and a second choice. Then Meet their first choice man, hear all the right things and hire him to give him maximum time to sort us out

What is your problem? I said they didn't interview anyone else, as has been reported. For what you're saying to have any validity, it would have to be the case that Tim Sherwood was the best manager to not turn down an interview. If that really is the case, then we're screwed, but somehow I doubt it.

[PeterWithesShin]

Sherwood had an instant affect at Spurs when he took over from AVB. Let's hope he can do the same for Villa over the next 3 months and keep us up.

Can we nail this lie / misconception once and for all

He didn't turn around a failing Spurs team.

He took a squad that was worth several hundred million pounds, full of players still getting to know each other, and kept them precisely where he found them.

He took 16 out of 18 points in his first 6 games, they'd taken 8 from their previous 7 games.

[richard moore]

If Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...

[Californian Villain]

Pros and cons from a Spurs messageboard:

Pros:

Good tactician - a couple of shockers where he didn't use a DM, but generally was very good tactically. Versatile in his approach (beat Pochettino twice, using two very different game plans to get the result). A few other examples here - http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwoodgone-o.5527/page-208#post-512241

Good judge of a player - Brought Bentaleb and Kane into the first team squad from the youth team when it was clear he didn't rate Capoue and Soldado from early on. A lot of people really didn't agree with that at the time (remember the whole Bentaleb is Sherwood's lovechild thing?)

Cons:

Man management - Was clear that a lot of his players didn't like him. The team often appeared nervous and regularly capitulated in big games, very few players looked like they were enjoying their football on the pitch. Though he is one of the few managers who has successfully man managed Adebayor

Poor coach - So many sloppy mistakes from the team on the pitch, both in attack and defence. A lot of our players badly regressed under him.

Media handling - Oh god, some of those interviews. Some of those comments. Was an utter laughing stock in the media.


If he's taken a step back, taken a long hard look at himself and learned when to keep his mouth shut (both to the media and to his players), he'll probably keep Villa up. Whether he'll ever really progress them though will require him getting some good backroom staff to help with the coaching though.

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/tim-sherwood.6708/page-18#post-669982

I think that's a fair summary, although it doesn't highlight the success he had with the Spurs academy (only mentions bring best young players into the first team). I'm happy with his appointment. A lot happier than I was with the appointment of anyone since MON.

[Californian Villain]

If he gets us scoring and we stay up I'll be delighted, if we go down I won't blame him. I'm going to get behind him and see how we go, we wanted Lambert out and we got it.

Me too. If we go down blames must be shared between Randy and PL. I think he'll easily keep us up.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Feel let down and underwhelmed.

Is this the best we could get? Possibly/probably.

Still, he's now the manager and will get my full support and hope he's the man to make us play attacking football and win a trophy. The FA Cup is there to be won this season.

[PeterWithesShin]

If Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...

What about the 18 he scored in 11/12?

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Feel let down and underwhelmed.

Is this the best we could get? Possibly/probably.

Still, he's now the manager and will get my full support and hope he's the man to make us play attacking football and win a trophy. The FA Cup is there to be won this season.

In addition, I personally think he'll keep us up, but will falter in the Sep - Dec part of the year.

[mr underhill]

 wasn't Yakubu still at Everton 11/12?

[PeterWithesShin]

wasn't Yakubu still at Everton 11/12?

Blackburn

[Damo70]

This has to be the most under qualified villa manager ever ?

Tony Barton?