Some people on here need a reality check. It's like some of you just want a chance to moan and aren't happy unless you can vent your frustrations and turn everything into a negative. How's about we don't bury the bloke before he's had a fucking chance. They have done exactly the right thing, moved quickly and got someone in to give us a fighting chance. Things will get better under him I guarentee that. Maybe he has made some mistakes but he is a young manager who the players will respect from his playing days. He will have my full support until I deem he has had a fair crack at it. Welcome to the Villa, boss.
Quote from: mattjpa on February 14, 2015, 05:33:38 PMQuote from: itbrvilla on February 14, 2015, 05:20:08 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on February 14, 2015, 04:20:54 PMJust read a comment that we both, i.e. club and manager, have a point to prove so could be a good fit. Which makes some sense to me. Point to prove? Thought he was the Premier League's most sought after manager?"One of the". It's quite clearly PR guff in any case. I think he has got a point to prove. It's only my opinion but I think he has ran his mouth a couple of times which has probably given people negative preconceptions about his ability. I think there is a good man manager and motivating coach in there which is exactly what we need. I don't think there is anyone who could disagree we have the talent and squad to stay up comfortablyWho will be to blame if we go down?
Quote from: itbrvilla on February 14, 2015, 05:20:08 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on February 14, 2015, 04:20:54 PMJust read a comment that we both, i.e. club and manager, have a point to prove so could be a good fit. Which makes some sense to me. Point to prove? Thought he was the Premier League's most sought after manager?"One of the". It's quite clearly PR guff in any case. I think he has got a point to prove. It's only my opinion but I think he has ran his mouth a couple of times which has probably given people negative preconceptions about his ability. I think there is a good man manager and motivating coach in there which is exactly what we need. I don't think there is anyone who could disagree we have the talent and squad to stay up comfortably
Quote from: Chris Smith on February 14, 2015, 04:20:54 PMJust read a comment that we both, i.e. club and manager, have a point to prove so could be a good fit. Which makes some sense to me. Point to prove? Thought he was the Premier League's most sought after manager?
Just read a comment that we both, i.e. club and manager, have a point to prove so could be a good fit. Which makes some sense to me.
It's likely I'd be underwhelmed by almost any appointment we could make, if I'm honest. However, I really think this is an extremely poor decision. We could well stay up still, the squad of players is good and often any change is refreshing enough to galvanise a team. In addition, Sherwood is certainly an ebullient character, and often down at the bottom what you need is a wave of emotion to carry you through.However, unless Sherwood has changed drastically in the last few months, I think the long-term will be extremely disappointing. The guy is very arrogant, and seemingly incapable of acknowledging that he's made any mistakes, preferring to blame the players 'lack of character' if he's made a catastrophic tactical fuck-up - and he makes plenty of those, as he's also, in the words of one Spurs fan, 'proudly and aggressively ignorant of the basics of football tactics'. Why do we keep appointing this kind of manager? Why always the thoughtless passion-mongers? Why do we see smaller clubs around us go for forward-thinking, tactically aware managers, often from abroad, and continue to appoint old-school British guys who don't even have a clue that they don't have a clue? It's really wearying.
Quote from: richard moore on February 14, 2015, 04:50:02 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:34:55 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on February 14, 2015, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PMQuote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him. No, I was dead against his appointment. He then said all the right things when he first got here so I got a bit more warm about it. But ultimately, my initial feeling that he was essentially another British plodder was, sadly, proven right.Richard - I just asked a question, it wasn't meant bitchily or anything. I just genuinely don't know what that phrase means in practical terms.No, I understand Monty. I guess we are all faced with giving people a chance in our work etc whom we don't necessarily like and had no influence over appointing. I've certainly had to and sometimes it works out and they prove you wrong, other times your concerns are confirmed I suppose giving someone a chance while disliking that person means not continually bringing up that you dislike the person while he does his job. Otherwise how does your opinion ever truly change?
Quote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:34:55 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on February 14, 2015, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PMQuote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him. No, I was dead against his appointment. He then said all the right things when he first got here so I got a bit more warm about it. But ultimately, my initial feeling that he was essentially another British plodder was, sadly, proven right.Richard - I just asked a question, it wasn't meant bitchily or anything. I just genuinely don't know what that phrase means in practical terms.No, I understand Monty. I guess we are all faced with giving people a chance in our work etc whom we don't necessarily like and had no influence over appointing. I've certainly had to and sometimes it works out and they prove you wrong, other times your concerns are confirmed
Quote from: Toronto Villa on February 14, 2015, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PMQuote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him. No, I was dead against his appointment. He then said all the right things when he first got here so I got a bit more warm about it. But ultimately, my initial feeling that he was essentially another British plodder was, sadly, proven right.Richard - I just asked a question, it wasn't meant bitchily or anything. I just genuinely don't know what that phrase means in practical terms.
Quote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PMQuote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him.
Quote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?
All this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!
Quote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 03:27:25 PMIt's likely I'd be underwhelmed by almost any appointment we could make, if I'm honest. However, I really think this is an extremely poor decision. We could well stay up still, the squad of players is good and often any change is refreshing enough to galvanise a team. In addition, Sherwood is certainly an ebullient character, and often down at the bottom what you need is a wave of emotion to carry you through.However, unless Sherwood has changed drastically in the last few months, I think the long-term will be extremely disappointing. The guy is very arrogant, and seemingly incapable of acknowledging that he's made any mistakes, preferring to blame the players 'lack of character' if he's made a catastrophic tactical fuck-up - and he makes plenty of those, as he's also, in the words of one Spurs fan, 'proudly and aggressively ignorant of the basics of football tactics'. Why do we keep appointing this kind of manager? Why always the thoughtless passion-mongers? Why do we see smaller clubs around us go for forward-thinking, tactically aware managers, often from abroad, and continue to appoint old-school British guys who don't even have a clue that they don't have a clue? It's really wearying.I agree with most of this. I don't want a manager a who "will give the players a kick up their backside", allthough that might work in the short term. I want a manager who knows what he is doing. Most of the evidence I've seen so far indicate that Sherwood doesn't.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on February 14, 2015, 04:55:07 PMQuote from: richard moore on February 14, 2015, 04:50:02 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:34:55 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on February 14, 2015, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Monty on February 14, 2015, 04:12:11 PMQuote from: Californian Villain on February 14, 2015, 04:10:45 PMAll this negativity from the same people who championed the appointment of Lambert. Frankly I'd be more worried if we appointed a manger most on here were happy with. Give the geezer a chance!!I was against the appointment of Lambert - does that mean I get to moan about Sherwood?Really? Or was it more that you were more cautious or sceptical than others? I don't recall you ever being outwardly against him. No, I was dead against his appointment. He then said all the right things when he first got here so I got a bit more warm about it. But ultimately, my initial feeling that he was essentially another British plodder was, sadly, proven right.Richard - I just asked a question, it wasn't meant bitchily or anything. I just genuinely don't know what that phrase means in practical terms.No, I understand Monty. I guess we are all faced with giving people a chance in our work etc whom we don't necessarily like and had no influence over appointing. I've certainly had to and sometimes it works out and they prove you wrong, other times your concerns are confirmed I suppose giving someone a chance while disliking that person means not continually bringing up that you dislike the person while he does his job. Otherwise how does your opinion ever truly change?TV has turned into the Buddha of H&V. Wise words there.
The really important this is, can he say "Birmingham" properly?
Quote from: richard moore on February 14, 2015, 05:10:27 PMIf Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...What about the 18 he scored in 11/12?
If Yakubu can score his first goal in England in 8 years, then anything can happen...