Sir Doug Ellis donates £1 million

[saunders_heroes]

Randy's obscene wealth could have bought us out of trouble over these last 5 years but he's done nothing. Imagine the grief you'd have given Ellis if he had done the same.

What the fuck is your continued obsession with me and what I think all about?

What's with your obsession with defending Lerner?

[dave.woodhall]

Randy's obscene wealth could have bought us out of trouble over these last 5 years but he's done nothing. Imagine the grief you'd have given Ellis if he had done the same.

What the fuck is your continued obsession with me and what I think all about?

What's with your obsession with defending Lerner?

And another one.

[saunders_heroes]

Randy's obscene wealth could have bought us out of trouble over these last 5 years but he's done nothing. Imagine the grief you'd have given Ellis if he had done the same.

What the fuck is your continued obsession with me and what I think all about?

What's with your obsession with defending Lerner?

And another one.

What an ego.

[dave.woodhall]

If you want to talk about me I'm sure Troy & co will oblige you.

[LeeB]

First of all you can answer how my opinion of Randy Lerner is connected to a thread about Doug Ellis. Second, you can tell me that you've read and heard everything I've had to say on the subject. Did you, for example, watch Central News on Friday night? This forum is not the entire world. Third, I can only paraphrase the words of lamdrew08 to add to my own - Randy may have failed to bring about a modicum of success which may or may not have been sustainable given the changes in football over the past eight years but Ellis singlehandedly destroyed the greatest opportunity this club has ever had purely for his own vanity and then failed to capitalise on numerous others because of his lack of vision. I do not believe that Randy Lerner has deliberately sabotaged the club. I do believe that Doug Ellis did.

Even in the above post you give Lerner such an easy ride then you let rip into Ellis!

Deliberate sabotage? Come on!

That's what you accused Lerner of a couple pages back.

[saunders_heroes]

If you want to talk about me I'm sure Troy & co will oblige you.

I haven't got the foggiest idea what you're talking about here.

[dave.woodhall]

If you want to talk about me I'm sure Troy & co will oblige you.

I have got the foggiest idea what you're talking about here.

If you want to talk about me - which you've spent over an hour doing on this thread - then feel free to do it elsewhere.

[saunders_heroes]

If you want to talk about me I'm sure Troy & co will oblige you.

I have got the foggiest idea what you're talking about here.

If you want to talk about me - which you've spent over an hour doing on this thread - then feel free to do it elsewhere.

That's the usual response to resort to when you get annoyed. As for Troy, I haven't got a bloody clue what you're talking about.

[villan from luton]

I will never respect Ellis after how he nearly fecked the club up when he wanted rid of Saunders if he had won the AGM.

As for Lerner, he has been a big let down, those scarves at the Sheffield United game seem rather hollow now

[dave.woodhall]

I will never respect Ellis after how he nearly fecked the club up when he wanted rid of Saunders if he had won the AGM.

As for Lerner, he has been a big let down, those scarves at the Sheffield United game seem rather hollow now

I think arguably the biggest problem with Lerner was that we'd kidded ourselves into thinking that once Doug went success would automatically follow. Randy talked a good fight and we added a bit of wishful thinking. That Bright Future stuff was a marketing slogan, not the Eleventh Commandment.

[villan from luton]

I will never respect Ellis after how he nearly fecked the club up when he wanted rid of Saunders if he had won the AGM.

As for Lerner, he has been a big let down, those scarves at the Sheffield United game seem rather hollow now

I think arguably the biggest problem with Lerner was that we'd kidded ourselves into thinking that once Doug went success would automatically follow. Randy talked a good fight and we added a bit of wishful thinking. That Bright Future stuff was a marketing slogan, not the Eleventh Commandment.

Other than Chelsea, I think we thought Lerner may be the big spender. To be fair he did fork out some money, but Man City came into the equation along with the already big boys.

[dave.woodhall]

I will never respect Ellis after how he nearly fecked the club up when he wanted rid of Saunders if he had won the AGM.

As for Lerner, he has been a big let down, those scarves at the Sheffield United game seem rather hollow now

I think arguably the biggest problem with Lerner was that we'd kidded ourselves into thinking that once Doug went success would automatically follow. Randy talked a good fight and we added a bit of wishful thinking. That Bright Future stuff was a marketing slogan, not the Eleventh Commandment.

Other than Chelsea, I think we thought Lerner may be the big spender. To be fair he did fork out some money, but Man City came into the equation along with the already big boys.

I wonder how much Spurs finally getting their act together affected it as well. Any decent-sized club in London has more money and can attract players more easily than us.

[villan from luton]

Maybe so. The location is always an issue. There again, look at that Spurs team v Arsenal today, know another subject. I was chatting to Spud mate I work with and reckon on paper it looks poor but the  manager has got them playing as he wants now, Have to say I thought Kane was a donkey, he has proved me totally wrong, a la Des Bremner after his debut

[pauliewalnuts]

I think the biggest influencing factor in Randy's relationship with the club was that he lost interest.

Wasn't there some talk about him meeting some woman just after he got divorced, and her not liking his football quirk?

Anyway, that's the thing I don't think I will be able to forgive him for. Yes, he spent lots of money, and I am having none of that "OMG! HE'S IN IT FOR THE MONEY!" moronic nonsense, but sometimes it is not just about money.

Most of the last three or four years has been about an increasing lack of interest combined with a continuing incompetence.

I think this is the year we're going down, which will be quite the achievement, spending that much money on a club then managing to fuck it up so badly, you actually get relegated, something even Ellis managed to avoid in the Sky era (not revisionism BTW, Dave is right about Ellis's "achievements" with the 82 side).

[villan from luton]

Pauline, do you remember Ellis wanting the removal of Sir Ron ?