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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #255 on: February 05, 2015, 07:00:47 PM »
The situation with the youngsters is so relevant.

Mine is 9 and a half and I've managed to get the Villa engrained into him from an early age. Even with everyone else he knows supporting the Sky favourites, he's come to accept we're not that good and was happy enough with it. He quite happly calls the others Glory Hunters.

At kids football the other week we were going through who everyone supported - the usual answers were belted out and when it came to him he shyed away and said "Aston Villa" very quietly.

Cue a little speech from me about being proud of our club, no matter what. But for his 9 yr old brain, all he sees is boredom, defeats, a manager we can't stand and everyone else laughing at us.

I take him to a game every couple of months and to be honest, he looks forward to the Family Fun Day part and that's about it. He's coming up to the Leicester game with a friend and seems reasonably pleased he's going, but it's getting difficult.

These years of shitness will cost us a lot of young fans.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 08:53:49 PM by CT »

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #256 on: February 05, 2015, 07:13:19 PM »
Similar to my 6-yearold grandson Freddy. He is avidly C&B, but I found out the other day just how upset he was when he came back from school and his forlorn words were something to the effect of, "There's only me and my Grandad who like the Villa. Everyone else thinks we're rubbish."

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #257 on: February 05, 2015, 07:19:07 PM »
My son (16) , ST holder has been to 2 games this season I think. He's had enough of the dross too.

For the first time ever my 19 year old 'refused' to attend the Liverpool game. He was orgainsing a trip to Amsterdam and just happneded to 'pick' that day to get it all booked up. In reality he just didnt want to go but needed an excuse so as not to offend me.

He has had enough of the total dross. Ive only been to three games myself this season but my lad could easily be one of the lost ones who wont ever return. In his time has has probably attended 200 games from a very young age.

I dont blame him. I will return but Im not sure he will

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #258 on: February 05, 2015, 07:20:07 PM »
They're in the business of making people proud, so Fox tells us.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #259 on: February 05, 2015, 07:33:33 PM »
Similar story to others.
My daughter (16) had a season ticket with me for 5 years.
At the start if this season I could see she really didn't want to renew, but didn't want to upset me by saying she did want to come anymore.
Eventually we sat down and talked about it and she said, "dad,I can't stand it. I'm absolutely bored stiff each time we go".
That was it.

Another one lost.

(Unfortunately, I kept mine)
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 07:45:28 PM by andyh »

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #260 on: February 05, 2015, 07:38:34 PM »
 I still enjoy meeting my mates on match day the banter & pre match drink being the highlight.
 In fact so much so, I now stay behind in the pub rather than go to the game.
 

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #261 on: February 05, 2015, 08:47:10 PM »
My son (16) , ST holder has been to 2 games this season I think. He's had enough of the dross too.

For the first time ever my 19 year old 'refused' to attend the Liverpool game. He was orgainsing a trip to Amsterdam and just happneded to 'pick' that day to get it all booked up. In reality he just didnt want to go but needed an excuse so as not to offend me.

He has had enough of the total dross. Ive only been to three games myself this season but my lad could easily be one of the lost ones who wont ever return. In his time has has probably attended 200 games from a very young age.

I dont blame him. I will return but Im not sure he will
Same here. I think I'm too far gone but my son can see the wood from the trees and appears to have bailed on Lerner .

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #262 on: February 05, 2015, 08:50:22 PM »
Has Fox responded to anyone yet?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #263 on: February 05, 2015, 08:55:55 PM »
Has Fox responded to anyone yet?
I'm not holding my breath.
I bet he thinks all those emails in his inbox are about PPI

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #264 on: February 05, 2015, 08:59:35 PM »
Might have more success using: puppet@avfc.co.uk

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #265 on: February 05, 2015, 09:54:16 PM »
If you look at our net spend under Lambert, we are not in the bottom of that league.

Is that true?  Can anybody supply me with the info. 
I'm certainly not saying that you're wrong, just surprised that's all.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #266 on: February 05, 2015, 10:03:20 PM »
If you look at our net spend under Lambert, we are not in the bottom of that league.

Is that true?  Can anybody supply me with the info. 
I'm certainly not saying that you're wrong, just surprised that's all.
that's what I'd like to know. Just what is his net spend?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #267 on: February 05, 2015, 10:16:54 PM »
There's a few posts on here stating that the problems are all Lerner's fault and Lambert is doing a decent job, to put it simply that really doesn't matter right now.

Lerner has announced we're for sale, no amount of protests about him are going to speed along the arrival of a buyer, so those protests serve to have little purpose, regardless of the comments from Fox I still feel that if a buyer with the money and plan to do something with the club we'll be sold, that's surely pretty clear.  Therefore all that can possibly come from that protest is that the price goes down and the need for a feasible plan for the new owner disappears, does anyone really want that?

So lets look at what the manager is doing and ignore anything above his head.  Then you see someone who has, even accounting for finance issues, done some seriously dumb shit and hasn't really learned from it, any manager that makes mistakes and doesn't learn from them is doomed to float around the wrong end of the league, it's what happens with the likes of Bruce, McLeish, McCarthy, etc.  For his own sake Lambert needs to go and see if he can redefine himself and avoid following that same path.

On top of that, the club seriously needs a jolt in the arm and there's nothing else that can give us that except a big win that leads to 3-4 wins on the bounce.  Given we haven't won 3 in a row in 2 1/2 years under Lambert gambling our season on it now seems scarily risky.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #268 on: February 05, 2015, 10:30:19 PM »
Similar to my 6-yearold grandson Freddy. He is avidly C&B, but I found out the other day just how upset he was when he came back from school and his forlorn words were something to the effect of, "There's only me and my Grandad who like the Villa. Everyone else thinks we're rubbish."
Leeg, no way are you a granddad!
You are so youthful and energetic!!!
Let's meet in The Bartons and you can buy me a pint, then I'll tell you how so much younger than other grandparents you look!


Same though, with my 9 year old Godson, who gets all my programmes, tickets and paraphernalia and is C&B through and through.
"Everybody thinks I'm stupid!"

Should I tell him to get used to it?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #269 on: February 06, 2015, 09:00:50 AM »
Similar to my 6-yearold grandson Freddy. He is avidly C&B, but I found out the other day just how upset he was when he came back from school and his forlorn words were something to the effect of, "There's only me and my Grandad who like the Villa. Everyone else thinks we're rubbish."
Leeg, no way are you a granddad!
You are so youthful and energetic!!!
Let's meet in The Bartons and you can buy me a pint, then I'll tell you how so much younger than other grandparents you look!


Same though, with my 9 year old Godson, who gets all my programmes, tickets and paraphernalia and is C&B through and through.
"Everybody thinks I'm stupid!"

Should I tell him to get used to it?


Yes. 

For the first time in twenty five years I'm starting to think about making cut backs about attending away games.
I usually do 15 aways on average each season.  I'm not going to Hull on Tuesday, and can't bare to part with anymore money to watch us get thrashed at Newcastle, Man Utd, Man City, Spurs. I'll renew my season ticket next season but there needs to be a drastic improvement for me to consider aways next season.

 


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