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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #240 on: February 05, 2015, 10:46:56 AM »
If Lambert was sacked I wouldn't want Cowans anywhere near the first team. As much as I love him he looks lost in sitting on that bench.

Definitely. Trouble is there is a widespread assumption that a former legend will make it all better. If we had a point for every suggestion that we should give Paul McGrath a coaching job of some description we'd be Champions before Christmas.

Every time someone makes a "legend" suggestion, in my mind I see Alan Shearer's sad face as he walked across our pitch and acknowledged the supporters of the team he'd just ushered into the Championship.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #241 on: February 05, 2015, 11:54:59 AM »
No point, nothing will happen to the summer at the earlist, and we are getting close to the point where it would be late for a new manager to make much impact anyway, besides which there are not many good options out there right now.  So as Betty Davis would say, "Buckle up, its going to be a bumpy ride!" :'(

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #242 on: February 05, 2015, 12:12:15 PM »
You know, we can often wrap ourselves up in a bubble on H&V and think that all Villa fans share the consensus here; in my mind it takes a lambdrew08 to provide a true reality check of the viewpoint of Villa fans. I remember reading a few weeks ago as well, another poster saying how his old drinking buddies in the Yenton also laid the blame squarely at Lerner’s feet; he even went so far as to say his old friends said that Lambert was going an incredible job. Now I don’t share these opinions, as most don’t on here, but it does make me realize that the pro-Lambert camp are not crackpots and that there is clearly a groundswell of opinion out there who believe he is doing the best under the circumstances.
Given all this, it’s not inconceivable that Fox also falls into the category of thinking that he’s doing a very good job given the brief and if indeed this is the case, then the chances of Fox being swayed one iota by a few emails arriving, that will instantly get filtered into junk are remote to say the least.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #243 on: February 05, 2015, 12:32:39 PM »
You know, we can often wrap ourselves up in a bubble on H&V and think that all Villa fans share the consensus here; in my mind it takes a lambdrew08 to provide a true reality check of the viewpoint of Villa fans. I remember reading a few weeks ago as well, another poster saying how his old drinking buddies in the Yenton also laid the blame squarely at Lerner’s feet; he even went so far as to say his old friends said that Lambert was going an incredible job. Now I don’t share these opinions, as most don’t on here, but it does make me realize that the pro-Lambert camp are not crackpots and that there is clearly a groundswell of opinion out there who believe he is doing the best under the circumstances.
Given all this, it’s not inconceivable that Fox also falls into the category of thinking that he’s doing a very good job given the brief and if indeed this is the case, then the chances of Fox being swayed one iota by a few emails arriving, that will instantly get filtered into junk are remote to say the least.

There is much more to be had from this squad then what is currently being produced. While I'll concede Lerner has severely stunted the growth of this club, there is absolutely no doubt that Lambert's inability to construct a semi-capable premier league side is also is major contributing factor. Our recent (and season long) run of form is flat out atrocious. We need to be getting much better performances out of the players, with the right tactics and appropriate preparation. Unfortunately, the club is failing at all levels with the exception of hospitality.

Personally, I would take a risk on any manager. The current approach yields no results, no goals and has the fans choosing to stay home. Everyone in a leadership role possesses some of the blame, but I feel that our match prep and performance just are not at a premier league standard.. and that job is in the hands of one man.

The fact that we're now looking for a Director of Football and an Assistant Manager (after Fox said there wasn't much of a rush and it could wait until summer) is such a knee jerk reaction it's alarming. Restructuring the hierarchy of the football side of the club at this point is going to fail. Just get another manager in there, put some pressure on the players to impress him and let him bring in his preferred back room staff. We're in rough shape, and a Director of Football coming in with 15-odd games left isn't going to change the play on match days. Lambert doesn't conduct training, gave far too much power to his assistants throughout the week, can't decide who he wants in the team or out on loan, can't put together astute tactics and deflects blame from himself by praising our excellence and effort. It's sad, and it's also taking the club in the wrong direction.

Do we have no expectations?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #244 on: February 05, 2015, 02:41:51 PM »
Personally I don't think there will be any changes at all especially if we put on a good show against Chelsea. However I would suggest that if we lose by over three goals Mr Fox will be on the dog and bone fairly rapidly to our esteemed owner.

What I suggest is they contact Sir Alex who is sitting at home bored out of his skull ,probably watching Bargain Hunt,and tell him to get that black coat on (and the black zip up sweater) fire the car up and get his arris down to Villa Park pronto.. While he is at it he can pick up Duncan Ferguson from Everton to take the training. Pay them both a kings ransom to the end of the season then we will take it from there.

and make sure he brings his magic watch down!
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 06:29:56 PM by Ron Manager »

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #245 on: February 05, 2015, 02:57:11 PM »
I guess some have fallen for the spin" he is doing well on limited resources" it may be a lot more than we think.

When you consider how bad it has been it still astonishes me that he has got such an easy ride, he would not have done at a lot of clubs with even lower expectations.

Sadly this is part of the problem, I just hope that if we capitulate on Saturday like we did at Arse that Villa Park vents its spleen.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #246 on: February 05, 2015, 03:04:39 PM »
My email.  I still have hope and aspirations that we'll go on a 10 match unbeaten run and end up at Wembley in may!

Tom,

To introduce myself, father of 3 boys 10,8,6 who live in Leyland, Lancashire, myself an exiled brummie who has subjected my clan to the joys of Aston Villa.
Most weekends we travel 200+ miles to watch our team usually 5+ hours in the car, missing footy training, gym classes and being with our family and friends.
It, for the most part has been worth it, my boys are injected with claret and blue, bedrooms, clothes they wear, FIFA teams on xbox are all Villa related, in the
Hope and expectation that the future is bright.

Now said boys, 10, 8 & 6 would rather not go, I have paid for the season, so if they don’t, another friend will, but for goodness sake, whether it’s through change
Of manager, a coach that can teach the basics of football, please do something!  I will never not support AV, but I may not come again from May for a long time.

Regards

Martin

Well said that man. The thought of putting off future generations should create some action!

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #247 on: February 05, 2015, 05:04:13 PM »
My email.  I still have hope and aspirations that we'll go on a 10 match unbeaten run and end up at Wembley in may!

Tom,

To introduce myself, father of 3 boys 10,8,6 who live in Leyland, Lancashire, myself an exiled brummie who has subjected my clan to the joys of Aston Villa.
Most weekends we travel 200+ miles to watch our team usually 5+ hours in the car, missing footy training, gym classes and being with our family and friends.
It, for the most part has been worth it, my boys are injected with claret and blue, bedrooms, clothes they wear, FIFA teams on xbox are all Villa related, in the
Hope and expectation that the future is bright.

Now said boys, 10, 8 & 6 would rather not go, I have paid for the season, so if they don’t, another friend will, but for goodness sake, whether it’s through change
Of manager, a coach that can teach the basics of football, please do something!  I will never not support AV, but I may not come again from May for a long time.

Regards

Martin

Well said that man. The thought of putting off future generations should create some action!

This is happening all the time. My own lad couldn't wait to attend matches from the age of 14 but by the end of Lambert's first season his interest was waning and last year he gave it up entirely. T13EOBH sometimes frequents here and his lad is the same. Can't blame them can you?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #248 on: February 05, 2015, 05:10:59 PM »
My email.  I still have hope and aspirations that we'll go on a 10 match unbeaten run and end up at Wembley in may!

Tom,

To introduce myself, father of 3 boys 10,8,6 who live in Leyland, Lancashire, myself an exiled brummie who has subjected my clan to the joys of Aston Villa.
Most weekends we travel 200+ miles to watch our team usually 5+ hours in the car, missing footy training, gym classes and being with our family and friends.
It, for the most part has been worth it, my boys are injected with claret and blue, bedrooms, clothes they wear, FIFA teams on xbox are all Villa related, in the
Hope and expectation that the future is bright.

Now said boys, 10, 8 & 6 would rather not go, I have paid for the season, so if they don’t, another friend will, but for goodness sake, whether it’s through change
Of manager, a coach that can teach the basics of football, please do something!  I will never not support AV, but I may not come again from May for a long time.

Regards

Martin

Well said that man. The thought of putting off future generations should create some action!

This is happening all the time. My own lad couldn't wait to attend matches from the age of 14 but by the end of Lambert's first season his interest was waning and last year he gave it up entirely. T13EOBH sometimes frequents here and his lad is the same. Can't blame them can you?

Ditto my son. Villa daft until 2 years ago. 

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #249 on: February 05, 2015, 05:17:16 PM »
My son (16) , ST holder has been to 2 games this season I think. He's had enough of the dross too.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #250 on: February 05, 2015, 05:21:51 PM »
The young 'uns should pull themselves together, I had to start watching them when we were crap so I don't see why they shouldn't have to as well.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #251 on: February 05, 2015, 05:25:57 PM »
In fairness to my son, I have  things other than the game, it's a boozy social thing as well. Not so good for a 12 year old who is only there for the footy.

Dad took me as a 5 year old in the last of the 3rd Division days. 10 years later we were Champions of Europe. Easier for me to stick at it I think.


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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #252 on: February 05, 2015, 05:48:42 PM »
If Lambert was sacked I wouldn't want Cowans anywhere near the first team. As much as I love him he looks lost in sitting on that bench.

Definitely. Trouble is there is a widespread assumption that a former legend will make it all better. If we had a point for every suggestion that we should give Paul McGrath a coaching job of some description we'd be Champions before Christmas.

Every time someone makes a "legend" suggestion, in my mind I see Alan Shearer's sad face as he walked across our pitch and acknowledged the supporters of the team he'd just ushered into the Championship.

Serenaded by  "Your just a fat geordie bastard with a shit football team" in the background. No wonder the bloke still winces when talking about us :)


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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #253 on: February 05, 2015, 06:16:43 PM »
Yep, my youngest lost the faith last season and is lost to not just Villa but football entirely. I blame Lambert and Lerner for that.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #254 on: February 05, 2015, 06:23:22 PM »
No point, nothing will happen to the summer at the earlist, and we are getting close to the point where it would be late for a new manager to make much impact anyway, besides which there are not many good options out there right now.  So as Betty Davis would say, "Buckle up, its going to be a bumpy ride!" :'(

Our Absentee Landlord might want to park this until the summer, but if we fail to beat either Hull or QPR there can be no justification in continuing with Lambert.

 


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