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Offline andrew08

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #210 on: February 04, 2015, 06:07:11 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

Nope... In the Upper Holte every game and wherever they put us every away game.

Where do you sit?

Trinity Road.  Not in the dugout.  And like you, wherever I get at away games.  I can honestly say that not one of the people I sit with, travel away with or drink with before the games believes Lambert should keep his job.  Not one.
Who's their alternative then? A genuine question, as this is one of the reasons I think we should stick with him for now. Who is available ?

Cesare Prandelli for a start.

Andrew, there are plenty of better managers out there, we just need to find one worthy of our support. The biggest decision facing the club right now is not sacking Lambert, it's who we bring in. I'm hoping Tom Fox is a man that will do his research and make that hugely important decision - approved by Randy, obviously.
That's the point, is sacking Lambert a bigger risk? A caretaker from within the club ( who I dont know, Sid's results get worse by the game) would I imagine give us a short term lift, but after that it becomes a gamble. I'd prefer a limp over the line of safety, again, and think again in the summer.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #211 on: February 04, 2015, 06:21:32 PM »
Weren't we 19th in the spending league table? You could argue that he's over performing!

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #212 on: February 04, 2015, 06:28:46 PM »
Those last two posts makes me sick.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #213 on: February 04, 2015, 06:38:39 PM »
If Lambert was sacked I wouldn't want Cowans anywhere near the first team. As much as I love him he looks lost in sitting on that bench.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #214 on: February 04, 2015, 06:38:51 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Fairplay to you. I respect you and the other fans who are still believing Lambert can keep us up.

Honestly Arsenal did me in. I expected to lose but not another humiliation and I firmly put the blame on Lambert for the tactics and then not changing them when it was obvious how badly it was going.

The accumulated results have just got to breaking point. I don't dislike Lambert, there is no reason to get personal. He has bought pretty well given his budget. However I just cannot ignore the results anymore. I am sure he will stay for a few more games (post a Hull loss I think Randy would act) but something is not working, truth be told even on our mini good runs he has never got the team firing properly. I don't have any hope from him any more. If by a miracle he manages to turn things around then great, but my expectations are now so low its a long road back for him in my eyes.



I'm with you, I just got there a bit sooner (October).

If nothing else it eventually gets to the point where the 'feel' of the club is just so negative that something has to give.  As stupid as it may sound the root cause becomes an irrelevance at that point and the sole concern has to be simplest, quickest and cheapest way to give the entire place a lift.  The cheapest is to hold out for a massive result where everything ticks, but that's not necessarily quick or simple  when things are as bad as they've become.  If we dismiss that the answer that tops all 3 is to replace the manager with someone that the fans can really get behind.  That means either you go in big with the head and get a Prandelli or you go in big with the heart and get a fans favourite, someone like Laursen.  I'm all for the former but I can totally understand calls for the latter.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #215 on: February 04, 2015, 06:39:10 PM »
Apart from the poor sap who worked for the chicken fuhrers at Blackburn I cannot think of another manager who has survived such a God-awful run of results over two and a half seasons? I am prepared to be enlightened...

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #216 on: February 04, 2015, 06:42:36 PM »
Pardew was nearly as bad but at least his bad run came on the back of a very good season so he had some record at the club that he could point to.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #217 on: February 04, 2015, 06:52:03 PM »
The cheapest is to hold out for a massive result where everything ticks, but that's not necessarily quick or simple  when things are as bad as they've become.

That's it for me.  We could put on the best performance of the Lambert reign at the weekend and stuff Chelsea, but after the initial euphoria, I'd simply have the attitude that one swallow doesn't make a summer - and I'd guess I wouldn't be in a minority with that view.  Things have been bad for so long and the manager now has virtually nil credibility, there really is no other viable alternative than a change.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #218 on: February 04, 2015, 07:00:44 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

Nope... In the Upper Holte every game and wherever they put us every away game.

Where do you sit?

Trinity Road.  Not in the dugout.  And like you, wherever I get at away games.  I can honestly say that not one of the people I sit with, travel away with or drink with before the games believes Lambert should keep his job.  Not one.
Who's their alternative then? A genuine question, as this is one of the reasons I think we should stick with him for now. Who is available ?

Cesare Prandelli for a start.

Andrew, there are plenty of better managers out there, we just need to find one worthy of our support. The biggest decision facing the club right now is not sacking Lambert, it's who we bring in. I'm hoping Tom Fox is a man that will do his research and make that hugely important decision - approved by Randy, obviously.
That's the point, is sacking Lambert a bigger risk? A caretaker from within the club ( who I dont know, Sid's results get worse by the game) would I imagine give us a short term lift, but after that it becomes a gamble. I'd prefer a limp over the line of safety, again, and think again in the summer.

Sacking Lambert is a no brainer and should have been done last summer. If we finally get to have a proper football manager and we really haven't had one these last 15 years, not only will it give the team a massive lift, the fans, infact the whole club could finally get round somebody that finally knows his arse from his elbow.

I don't want to see us limp over the line, assuming we can cross it. We're much bigger and better than that and I certainly don't want to see our best players looking for a move knowing that we're a club going no where. I'm sure the club don't want to see another drop in season ticket sales, discounting ticket prices, fans forever negative about the manager, owner and general state of the club.

We need leadership and the most important leader at Aston Villa, despite what Doug Ellis may have thought, is the manager. Right now our leader has lost the majority of fans, by recent performances the players and he's about to lose any respect he may have had in the game.

Nothing else matters. I would hope Tom Fox realises that too.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2015, 07:04:09 PM by The Sound of Villadelphia »

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #219 on: February 04, 2015, 07:16:25 PM »
Weren't we 19th in the spending league table? You could argue that he's over performing!

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Paul L

No not over the last 3 seasons we are not at all. Pretty sure we're somewhere between 9th-12th on net spending. Another bullshit excuse busted.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #220 on: February 04, 2015, 07:23:53 PM »
The cheapest is to hold out for a massive result where everything ticks, but that's not necessarily quick or simple  when things are as bad as they've become.

That's it for me.  We could put on the best performance of the Lambert reign at the weekend and stuff Chelsea, but after the initial euphoria, I'd simply have the attitude that one swallow doesn't make a summer - and I'd guess I wouldn't be in a minority with that view.  Things have been bad for so long and the manager now has virtually nil credibility, there really is no other viable alternative than a change.
Agreed, we're beyond the tipping point in terms of Lambert's credibility.
I'm not sure, though, that Lambert will get the bullet before the season-end, which really is the nightmare scenario.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #221 on: February 04, 2015, 07:46:53 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2939487/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Lionel-Messi-Diego-Costa-14-players-Europe-s-five-league-scored-goals-Aston-Villa-season.html

More piss taking.
I think Mr.Fox should write to the 'paper' and tell them to stop printing all of these false narratives.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #222 on: February 04, 2015, 07:48:20 PM »
I don't think he's had a fair crack of the whip when it comes to transfer funds.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #223 on: February 04, 2015, 08:03:02 PM »
I've emailed Tom Fox and I've also posted a letter containing the same. I'm hoping that regardless of the content of these missives we've all been creating, that someone in some small way will pay attention.

And if nothing happens I'll go back to posting a turd in a box.

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #224 on: February 04, 2015, 08:08:00 PM »
I'm not convinced that all the fan base wants Lambert out. The season ticket holders I know and speak to are to a man/women absolutely pissed off with the teams performance but not all of them blame Lambert. Every player Arsenal put on the pitch on Sunday I would imagine cost them at least £10 million,if they purchased them, we're paying £2-4 million a player or playing loans or home grown. Albion have out spent us!!

lambert is doing ok in my opinion with what he's got. I'm not saying we won't get relegated, and may well do, but it won't be all his fault if we do.

On paper the squad should be comfortably mid table. Are we worse than Stoke. No. Are we worse than Newcastle. No. The one factor is Lambert. He should have gone in the summer. The bucks stops with him. I dont know one Villa fan who wants him to stay


 


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