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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #195 on: February 04, 2015, 03:58:49 PM »
I'm not convinced that all the fan base wants Lambert out. The season ticket holders I know and speak to are to a man/women absolutely pissed off with the teams performance but not all of them blame Lambert. Every player Arsenal put on the pitch on Sunday I would imagine cost them at least £10 million,if they purchased them, we're paying £2-4 million a player or playing loans or home grown. Albion have out spent us!!

lambert is doing ok in my opinion with what he's got. I'm not saying we won't get relegated, and may well do, but it won't be all his fault if we do.

I find this view incredible to reconcile in my head. If you look at our net spend under Lambert, we are not in the bottom of that league. He has international players to pick in every position on the field, a couple that were stars at the world cup, a 20-30 million pound centre forward and plenty of options around him. The quality of those after 6 or 7 windows at the club is solely down to him, he has spent upwards of 45 million. Not top 6-8 money, but not bottom 4-5, and the inexplicable way some players have been dealt with will never make sense. His tactics have been rigid in games, while he seems to have found a system that works for a couple of games then change it to get favourites back in regardless. There is then the bizarre lack of urgency to appoint an assistant to replace Culverhouse and Karsa, (the Keane experiment aside) and it seems that he has a genuine issue with being questioned by people on his managerial team. An easy way to improve us overnight would be to get a tactically astute assistant that is good in training situations, but that seems lost on us, but it is in Lambert's sphere of control. 3 left backs have been bought, 2 right backs then reverting to the one that was completely ostracised in the first place.

And then we have not even started on the negative results records, the lack of goals, the worst goal difference in the league, the runs of games without winning or the general quality of play.
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying in any sense that I'm happy with how things are going. It's just the inevitable result of under investment. I knew from the first pre season game I saw in the summer that there was a danger we would go down unless we invested properly in what was left of the summer window. We didn't and haven't done in Jan. If he keeps this squad up he will have justified his contract and equally tight wadded Chairmen will be busting a gut to employ him.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #196 on: February 04, 2015, 04:00:08 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #197 on: February 04, 2015, 04:04:22 PM »
I'm not convinced that all the fan base wants Lambert out. The season ticket holders I know and speak to are to a man/women absolutely pissed off with the teams performance but not all of them blame Lambert. Every player Arsenal put on the pitch on Sunday I would imagine cost them at least £10 million,if they purchased them, we're paying £2-4 million a player or playing loans or home grown. Albion have out spent us!!

lambert is doing ok in my opinion with what he's got. I'm not saying we won't get relegated, and may well do, but it won't be all his fault if we do.

I find this view incredible to reconcile in my head. If you look at our net spend under Lambert, we are not in the bottom of that league. He has international players to pick in every position on the field, a couple that were stars at the world cup, a 20-30 million pound centre forward and plenty of options around him. The quality of those after 6 or 7 windows at the club is solely down to him, he has spent upwards of 45 million. Not top 6-8 money, but not bottom 4-5, and the inexplicable way some players have been dealt with will never make sense. His tactics have been rigid in games, while he seems to have found a system that works for a couple of games then change it to get favourites back in regardless. There is then the bizarre lack of urgency to appoint an assistant to replace Culverhouse and Karsa, (the Keane experiment aside) and it seems that he has a genuine issue with being questioned by people on his managerial team. An easy way to improve us overnight would be to get a tactically astute assistant that is good in training situations, but that seems lost on us, but it is in Lambert's sphere of control. 3 left backs have been bought, 2 right backs then reverting to the one that was completely ostracised in the first place.

And then we have not even started on the negative results records, the lack of goals, the worst goal difference in the league, the runs of games without winning or the general quality of play.
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying in any sense that I'm happy with how things are going. It's just the inevitable result of under investment. I knew from the first pre season game I saw in the summer that there was a danger we would go down unless we invested properly in what was left of the summer window. We didn't and haven't done in Jan. If he keeps this squad up he will have justified his contract and equally tight wadded Chairmen will be busting a gut to employ him.



Can you please try and create a reasonable scenario in which the last few months could have gone any worse?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #198 on: February 04, 2015, 04:04:51 PM »
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying in any sense that I'm happy with how things are going. It's just the inevitable result of under investment. I knew from the first pre season game I saw in the summer that there was a danger we would go down unless we invested properly in what was left of the summer window. We didn't and haven't done in Jan. If he keeps this squad up he will have justified his contract and equally tight wadded Chairmen will be busting a gut to employ him.
Well, I don't see Fox offloading Lambert now (December would have been the time to do it), so the challenge is this: how can Lambert be helped to get this team over the line in May?
For me, the options are: get in a DoF to provide some more footballing input; and / or, get in a credible coach to motivate and coach the squad that we have.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #199 on: February 04, 2015, 04:08:25 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #200 on: February 04, 2015, 04:23:56 PM »
I'm not convinced that all the fan base wants Lambert out. The season ticket holders I know and speak to are to a man/women absolutely pissed off with the teams performance but not all of them blame Lambert. Every player Arsenal put on the pitch on Sunday I would imagine cost them at least £10 million,if they purchased them, we're paying £2-4 million a player or playing loans or home grown. Albion have out spent us!!

lambert is doing ok in my opinion with what he's got. I'm not saying we won't get relegated, and may well do, but it won't be all his fault if we do.

11 Goals all season, head out of sand time.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #201 on: February 04, 2015, 04:32:42 PM »
I'm not convinced that all the fan base wants Lambert out. The season ticket holders I know and speak to are to a man/women absolutely pissed off with the teams performance but not all of them blame Lambert. Every player Arsenal put on the pitch on Sunday I would imagine cost them at least £10 million,if they purchased them, we're paying £2-4 million a player or playing loans or home grown. Albion have out spent us!!

lambert is doing ok in my opinion with what he's got. I'm not saying we won't get relegated, and may well do, but it won't be all his fault if we do.

I find this view incredible to reconcile in my head. If you look at our net spend under Lambert, we are not in the bottom of that league. He has international players to pick in every position on the field, a couple that were stars at the world cup, a 20-30 million pound centre forward and plenty of options around him. The quality of those after 6 or 7 windows at the club is solely down to him, he has spent upwards of 45 million. Not top 6-8 money, but not bottom 4-5, and the inexplicable way some players have been dealt with will never make sense. His tactics have been rigid in games, while he seems to have found a system that works for a couple of games then change it to get favourites back in regardless. There is then the bizarre lack of urgency to appoint an assistant to replace Culverhouse and Karsa, (the Keane experiment aside) and it seems that he has a genuine issue with being questioned by people on his managerial team. An easy way to improve us overnight would be to get a tactically astute assistant that is good in training situations, but that seems lost on us, but it is in Lambert's sphere of control. 3 left backs have been bought, 2 right backs then reverting to the one that was completely ostracised in the first place.

And then we have not even started on the negative results records, the lack of goals, the worst goal difference in the league, the runs of games without winning or the general quality of play.

"International" players dont really count for much these days lets be honest

To be fair Lambert, with that net spend he had to replace the entire spine of the team he inherited. The only player he has sold to generate cash of over a million was James Collins. The spine of the team he inherited (Given, Dunne, Petrov, Bent) he had to replace in same cases due to injury/illness but we have got nothing back in return. The two charlatans Makoun and Ireland similarly left for nothing. In the case of Given and Bent they were replaced with better younger players for far less money but its disappointing that we got a big fat zero for letting go these six high earners.

As others have said, player recruitment is actually one of Lambert's strengths. But management is more than being a scout and unfortunately player motivation, tactics, strategy, game management are where he continues to struggle without any sign of improvement. The game at home to Newcastle in his first season where he brought Gabby and Weimann on at half time, stumbled on a decent formation for us and we played great football for the rest of the season. For some reason he decides that summer to spend the bones of 10m bringing in two beanpole immobile strikers and go long ball. He doesnt like wingers he tells us but this transfer window he brings in two and we adopt Spain like tactics out of nowhere.

Rather than a Roy Keane, Lambert should have been instructed last summer to bring in a very experienced number two sound with tactics and coaching just to guide him


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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #202 on: February 04, 2015, 04:35:25 PM »
Every player Arsenal put on the pitch on Sunday I would imagine cost them at least £10 million,if they purchased them, we're paying £2-4 million a player or playing loans or home grown. Albion have out spent us!!

That's true, but what about all the shit sides full of cheap players who we also look awful against? Those we've looked awful against for the last three years now?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #203 on: February 04, 2015, 04:54:37 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

**snigger**

Maybe they need to turn their seats to face the pitch but I certainly wouldn't blame them if they refused to.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #204 on: February 04, 2015, 04:58:11 PM »
The fact that you've got half of the manager's name as your user name indicates that you may be somewhat swayed to back the buffoon regardless

Well we all did that a few years back tbf to me. No loyalty you lot!

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #205 on: February 04, 2015, 05:01:31 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

Nope... In the Upper Holte every game and wherever they put us every away game.

Where do you sit?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #206 on: February 04, 2015, 05:19:49 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

Nope... In the Upper Holte every game and wherever they put us every away game.

Where do you sit?

Trinity Road.  Not in the dugout.  And like you, wherever I get at away games.  I can honestly say that not one of the people I sit with, travel away with or drink with before the games believes Lambert should keep his job.  Not one.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #207 on: February 04, 2015, 05:31:21 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

Nope... In the Upper Holte every game and wherever they put us every away game.

Where do you sit?

Trinity Road.  Not in the dugout.  And like you, wherever I get at away games.  I can honestly say that not one of the people I sit with, travel away with or drink with before the games believes Lambert should keep his job.  Not one.

Who's their alternative then? A genuine question, as this is one of the reasons I think we should stick with him for now. Who is available ?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #208 on: February 04, 2015, 05:52:00 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Fairplay to you. I respect you and the other fans who are still believing Lambert can keep us up.

Honestly Arsenal did me in. I expected to lose but not another humiliation and I firmly put the blame on Lambert for the tactics and then not changing them when it was obvious how badly it was going.

The accumulated results have just got to breaking point. I don't dislike Lambert, there is no reason to get personal. He has bought pretty well given his budget. However I just cannot ignore the results anymore. I am sure he will stay for a few more games (post a Hull loss I think Randy would act) but something is not working, truth be told even on our mini good runs he has never got the team firing properly. I don't have any hope from him any more. If by a miracle he manages to turn things around then great, but my expectations are now so low its a long road back for him in my eyes.


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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #209 on: February 04, 2015, 05:58:32 PM »
And of the people I see at the game this is a widely held view

Where do you sit?  On the bench?

Nope... In the Upper Holte every game and wherever they put us every away game.

Where do you sit?

Trinity Road.  Not in the dugout.  And like you, wherever I get at away games.  I can honestly say that not one of the people I sit with, travel away with or drink with before the games believes Lambert should keep his job.  Not one.
Who's their alternative then? A genuine question, as this is one of the reasons I think we should stick with him for now. Who is available ?

Cesare Prandelli for a start.

Andrew, there are plenty of better managers out there, we just need to find one worthy of our support. The biggest decision facing the club right now is not sacking Lambert, it's who we bring in. I'm hoping Tom Fox is a man that will do his research and make that hugely important decision - approved by Randy, obviously.
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