Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable

[Ron Manager]

I have just popped back to see what people think

Listen, I cannot make anyone do or not do anything.

However, all I can say is, to those who say "whats the point" or similar, the answer is "whats the point of anything"

What was the point of about 150 people doing an 8 minute protest - I tell you what the point was - that protest was over every TV, Radio and Newspaper for about 7 days before - it highlighted our issue !!.

Now that didn;t work because fans (inc. myself) did not want to miss the game or hurt the team.

This is getting your point across in a way, as long as it is polite, that is non-threatening and in a correct way.

He may not read them, however, Jonathon Fear is in contact with Randy Lerner and has emailed him personally yesterday regarding the issues, and Mr Lerner will know that this is taking place.

Now, if I emploed a CEO who, having received 1000's of complaints about my company, and had just hit the delete button without even getting someone to look at them - I would want to know what I was paying my CEO and the customer complaints team for.

As I said, I can't make anyone do anything, but if your attitude is "whats the point" then you really have to look at yourself.

Before my time, people marched on Digbeth in order to save our club - I imagine people then said "whats the point !"

If you care about the club, you would take 5 minutes out of your time to do it.

Then, if they don't read them, if they delete them - that is THEIR issue, you have done your bit

Up the Villa

A Vitalvillan in peace !

We did not march on Digbeth as you luridly suggest. We convened at Digbeth Civic Hall listened to people who knew what they were talking
about and hoped for the best. In time Pat and Doug provided us with it!

[silhillvilla]

Forget emails, if you're going to do it put pen to paper and post, or do both.

[TopDeck113]

My offering, for what it's worth...

Dear Mr Fox,

This is only the second time in my 45 years of supporting Aston Villa that I have been compelled to write to a senior executive at the club.  On the previous occasion - over a quarter of a century ago - the then Chairman, Mr Ellis, extended the courtesy of replying to my letter.  I trust that you will do likewise.


If I may begin with an observation.  A football club is an entity like very little else.  Yes, it is a business,  but it is also a historic institution embedded in the social infrastructure of the community whose name it bears and with an obligation to those who support it to offer something almost intangible: a peculiar mix of pride in the past and hope for the future.  It is this mix that was distilled into the "Proud History, Bright Future" strap-line that précised the early years of Mr Lerner's ownership.

The pride I have in my club's history will never diminish.  Our position as one of the architects of global professional football is secure for all time.  I am also pleased that the club now pays far more respect to its illustrious history than was done in the more recent past.  However, history can only count for so much.  Whilst still imbuing the pride element of the mix I detailed above, there is now a whole generation of supporters whose celebration of great triumphs is something that they can only do vicariously.  But to make matters worse, the other ingredient, the hope, has been poisoned and debased to the point that I rarely speak with a fellow fan who expresses anything but disillusionment or genuine fear for the club's immediate future.

Amongst us supporters there are many theories and hypotheses as to how the club has come to find itself in this situation, seemingly sleep-walking into certain relegation.  I have my own.  However, now is not the time for a post-mortem on the last five seasons or so.  Not least because the patient, whilst critical, is not yet dead.  Now is the time for decisive action from those of you with the power to do something to revive him.

It is obvious to me, as with anyone with a lifetime of watching football, that the current managerial and coaching set-up around the first team is simply not working.  That is the aspect that needs to be addressed and changed. Now.

Your recent interview with Pat Murphy on BBC Radio Five Live gave the impression that you are reluctant to make that change as there is no guarantee that it would improve the current situation.  That may indeed transpire to be true.  But a change now would do something else. It would give us supporters back that intangible: hope.  And it will be that hope that AVFC the business will need to extract every penny from if relegation is the outcome in May.


Yours sincerely,

[Smirker]

Forget emails, if you're going to do it put pen to paper and post, or do both.

Will do.

[Legion]

My offering, for what it's worth...

Dear Mr Fox,

This is only the second time in my 45 years of supporting Aston Villa that I have been compelled to write to a senior executive at the club.  On the previous occasion - over a quarter of a century ago - the then Chairman, Mr Ellis, extended the courtesy of replying to my letter.  I trust that you will do likewise.


If I may begin with an observation.  A football club is an entity like very little else.  Yes, it is a business,  but it is also a historic institution embedded in the social infrastructure of the community whose name it bears and with an obligation to those who support it to offer something almost intangible: a peculiar mix of pride in the past and hope for the future.  It is this mix that was distilled into the "Proud History, Bright Future" strap-line that précised the early years of Mr Lerner's ownership.

The pride I have in my club's history will never diminish.  Our position as one of the architects of global professional football is secure for all time.  I am also pleased that the club now pays far more respect to its illustrious history than was done in the more recent past.  However, history can only count for so much.  Whilst still imbuing the pride element of the mix I detailed above, there is now a whole generation of supporters whose celebration of great triumphs is something that they can only do vicariously.  But to make matters worse, the other ingredient, the hope, has been poisoned and debased to the point that I rarely speak with a fellow fan who expresses anything but disillusionment or genuine fear for the club's immediate future.

Amongst us supporters there are many theories and hypotheses as to how the club has come to find itself in this situation, seemingly sleep-walking into certain relegation.  I have my own.  However, now is not the time for a post-mortem on the last five seasons or so.  Not least because the patient, whilst critical, is not yet dead.  Now is the time for decisive action from those of you with the power to do something to revive him.

It is obvious to me, as with anyone with a lifetime of watching football, that the current managerial and coaching set-up around the first team is simply not working.  That is the aspect that needs to be addressed and changed. Now.

Your recent interview with Pat Murphy on BBC Radio Five Live gave the impression that you are reluctant to make that change as there is no guarantee that it would improve the current situation.  That may indeed transpire to be true.  But a change now would do something else. It would give us supporters back that intangible: hope.  And it will be that hope that AVFC the business will need to extract every penny from if relegation is the outcome in May.


Yours sincerely,

Applauds.

[saunders_heroes]

I have just popped back to see what people think

Listen, I cannot make anyone do or not do anything.

However, all I can say is, to those who say "whats the point" or similar, the answer is "whats the point of anything"

What was the point of about 150 people doing an 8 minute protest - I tell you what the point was - that protest was over every TV, Radio and Newspaper for about 7 days before - it highlighted our issue !!.

Now that didn;t work because fans (inc. myself) did not want to miss the game or hurt the team.

This is getting your point across in a way, as long as it is polite, that is non-threatening and in a correct way.

He may not read them, however, Jonathon Fear is in contact with Randy Lerner and has emailed him personally yesterday regarding the issues, and Mr Lerner will know that this is taking place.

Now, if I emploed a CEO who, having received 1000's of complaints about my company, and had just hit the delete button without even getting someone to look at them - I would want to know what I was paying my CEO and the customer complaints team for.

As I said, I can't make anyone do anything, but if your attitude is "whats the point" then you really have to look at yourself.

Before my time, people marched on Digbeth in order to save our club - I imagine people then said "whats the point !"

If you care about the club, you would take 5 minutes out of your time to do it.

Then, if they don't read them, if they delete them - that is THEIR issue, you have done your bit

Up the Villa

A Vitalvillan in peace !

We did not march on Digbeth as you luridly suggest. We convened at Digbeth Civic Hall listened to people who knew what they were talking
about and hoped for the best. In time Pat and Doug provided us with it!

What's lurid about suggesting fans "marched" to Digbeth to help save the club back in the '60s?

[kippaxvilla2]

I sent this last night under the below subject heading which in itself has probably got an automatic junk mail filter on it.  It is worth noting I wrote to Doug twice in 2006 and he replied almost straight away.

Time to flip the coin

Dear Mr Fox,

We have a decent first team - first 11 at least so what is the problem here? 

Players yes, but the motivator In chief is the manager and he's paid to get the best out of the team.  By any measure he is failing in this goal and has done for the last 2.5 years. To prove this point, under his watch the following has happened.

Worst start to a Premier League season.
First side to ever exit a major cup competition to a fourth tier side over two legs.
Highest number of home defeats in a season - 9.  Surpassed last season with 10.
Worst ever away defeat 0-8.
Highest number of goals conceded consecutively without reply - 16
Highest number of games without scoring - 6
Worst goals record in the first 9 divisions in England with one exception a non league side.
This list is also punctured by inglorious exits from major cup competitions at the hands of Millwall, Sheffield United and Leyton Orient.
There are more that I haven't got time to name.

Please we implore you act now before it's too late. If the club has any ambitions left for the long suffering supporters it must change something that simply isn't working.

Kind Regards,
Rob

[Stu]

Touch sensationalist perhaps?

(In reply to SH)

[Risso]

My offering, for what it's worth...

Dear Mr Fox,

This is only the second time in my 45 years of supporting Aston Villa that I have been compelled to write to a senior executive at the club.  On the previous occasion - over a quarter of a century ago - the then Chairman, Mr Ellis, extended the courtesy of replying to my letter.  I trust that you will do likewise.


If I may begin with an observation.  A football club is an entity like very little else.  Yes, it is a business,  but it is also a historic institution embedded in the social infrastructure of the community whose name it bears and with an obligation to those who support it to offer something almost intangible: a peculiar mix of pride in the past and hope for the future.  It is this mix that was distilled into the "Proud History, Bright Future" strap-line that précised the early years of Mr Lerner's ownership.

The pride I have in my club's history will never diminish.  Our position as one of the architects of global professional football is secure for all time.  I am also pleased that the club now pays far more respect to its illustrious history than was done in the more recent past.  However, history can only count for so much.  Whilst still imbuing the pride element of the mix I detailed above, there is now a whole generation of supporters whose celebration of great triumphs is something that they can only do vicariously.  But to make matters worse, the other ingredient, the hope, has been poisoned and debased to the point that I rarely speak with a fellow fan who expresses anything but disillusionment or genuine fear for the club's immediate future.

Amongst us supporters there are many theories and hypotheses as to how the club has come to find itself in this situation, seemingly sleep-walking into certain relegation.  I have my own.  However, now is not the time for a post-mortem on the last five seasons or so.  Not least because the patient, whilst critical, is not yet dead.  Now is the time for decisive action from those of you with the power to do something to revive him.

It is obvious to me, as with anyone with a lifetime of watching football, that the current managerial and coaching set-up around the first team is simply not working.  That is the aspect that needs to be addressed and changed. Now.

Your recent interview with Pat Murphy on BBC Radio Five Live gave the impression that you are reluctant to make that change as there is no guarantee that it would improve the current situation.  That may indeed transpire to be true.  But a change now would do something else. It would give us supporters back that intangible: hope.  And it will be that hope that AVFC the business will need to extract every penny from if relegation is the outcome in May.


Yours sincerely,

Get you with your fancy correct spelling and grammar!  There are not nearly enough cases of "my beloved Aston Villa" or "it hurts deeply to see my club in this state".  Must do better, see me.  C- 

[kippaxvilla2]

Edited

[kippaxvilla2]

Mine was written on email in double quick time hence paragraph shiteness

[Stu]

Edited

Yeah, my post wasn't aimed at your email. Edited it when I saw you'd posted just before.

[kippaxvilla2]

Edited

Yeah, my post wasn't aimed at your email. Edited it when I saw you'd posted just before.

No problem

[andyh]

Topdeck.....that is brilliant.

[LTA]

Have just sent mine.

Obviously people know I'm not a fan of the CEO, but I've been respectful and fair in what I've said, and I hope others will do the same.

He may not read this anyway, but he certainly wont if its just mindless slagging off of Lambert and abuse, and he'd be quite right not to.