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Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2015, 07:30:09 PM »
Sorry to piss on the bonfire lads, but does anyone think there's a chance he'll even see these emails? He'll have a PA deleting these faster than shit off a shovel.

its the dripping tap effect
a lot of things have happened in this world as people have stood by and said there's no point
I hope I'm wrong then. I'm sure the evidence will be posted here to suggest so.

Online eric woolban woolban

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #61 on: February 03, 2015, 07:32:06 PM »
What does the Fox say?

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2015, 07:42:31 PM »
The only guaranteed way for businesses to take notice of their customers is when their customers stop becoming customers. Villa are fairly confident that their customers will continue to turn up so they are not going to change anything.
But the main "customer" is the TV deal.
Which will vanish with relegation.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2015, 07:43:57 PM »
My shout in the dark - tries to mix it up a bit...


Hello Mr Fox,

I am aware via fan sites that you will be getting a fair bit of email traffic regarding the current situation at the club. This email is to add my voice to that and express my sincere concern for the fate of the club.

I needn't labour on the specifics of my disappointment and concern, it mirrors that of all fans and I've no doubt the staff too.

I trust that you are both capable and empowered to do what is necessary - and I won't patronise you by telling you how to do the job you are clearly very qualified to do.

I will however share a brief glimpse into my own job. I work as a ScrumMaster and that role is all about making changes within teams and organisations to bring about positive results and incremental improvements.

One of the key mantras of my role, and a powerful statement of common-sense is that "if nothing changes - everything remains the same".

Food for thought.

Yours respectfully
Richard Birch

Offline holtelowerL5

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2015, 07:56:19 PM »
I have just popped back to see what people think

Listen, I cannot make anyone do or not do anything.

However, all I can say is, to those who say "whats the point" or similar, the answer is "whats the point of anything"

What was the point of about 150 people doing an 8 minute protest - I tell you what the point was - that protest was over every TV, Radio and Newspaper for about 7 days before - it highlighted our issue !!.

Now that didn;t work because fans (inc. myself) did not want to miss the game or hurt the team.

This is getting your point across in a way, as long as it is polite, that is non-threatening and in a correct way.

He may not read them, however, Jonathon Fear is in contact with Randy Lerner and has emailed him personally yesterday regarding the issues, and Mr Lerner will know that this is taking place.

Now, if I emploed a CEO who, having received 1000's of complaints about my company, and had just hit the delete button without even getting someone to look at them - I would want to know what I was paying my CEO and the customer complaints team for.

As I said, I can't make anyone do anything, but if your attitude is "whats the point" then you really have to look at yourself.

Before my time, people marched on Digbeth in order to save our club - I imagine people then said "whats the point !"

If you care about the club, you would take 5 minutes out of your time to do it.

Then, if they don't read them, if they delete them - that is THEIR issue, you have done your bit

Up the Villa

A Vitalvillan in peace !

Offline McGraths Dry Cleaning

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2015, 08:00:57 PM »
I think it is a good idea and will make a difference. No one will get a reply for sure - what business is going to reply to an e-mail asking to sack the bloke in charge? However, I do think the number of e-mails will be noted and it will be discussed. I work in Marketing *cough* and have worked for some pretty big companies and even the "nasty" ones (e.g. banking) note all the incoming "complaint" traffic (phone calls, social media, e-mails, letters etc).

Its also cathartic for us - a protest that doesn't undermine the team on the pitch.

Come on lets get the campaign going - lets all "Inbox Fox" (see what I did there?)

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2015, 08:01:57 PM »
Sorry to piss on the bonfire lads, but does anyone think there's a chance he'll even see these emails? He'll have a PA deleting these faster than shit off a shovel.
Shouldn't stop you doing something, though. Do something!!
« Last Edit: February 03, 2015, 08:05:06 PM by Mister E »

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2015, 08:03:53 PM »
My shout in the dark - tries to mix it up a bit...


Hello Mr Fox,

I am aware via fan sites that you will be getting a fair bit of email traffic regarding the current situation at the club. This email is to add my voice to that and express my sincere concern for the fate of the club.

I needn't labour on the specifics of my disappointment and concern, it mirrors that of all fans and I've no doubt the staff too.

I trust that you are both capable and empowered to do what is necessary - and I won't patronise you by telling you how to do the job you are clearly very qualified to do.

I will however share a brief glimpse into my own job. I work as a ScrumMaster and that role is all about making changes within teams and organisations to bring about positive results and incremental improvements.

One of the key mantras of my role, and a powerful statement of common-sense is that "if nothing changes - everything remains the same".

Food for thought.

Yours respectfully
Richard Birch

Nice one, Richard.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2015, 08:08:15 PM »
I emailed Tom Fox recently:
Hi Tom,
Do you want to be remembered as the guy who oversaw Villa’s first relegation in 27 years? I hope not, and loyal supporters do not want to see it either. I have witnessed 3 relegations in my time as a fan (as well as experiencing the winning all of the major club trophies bar one) and – whereas previously the gap between the tiers was relatively slight – the drop now would be disastrous (not least for the Chairman, whose investment would look even less attractive to would-be buyers than it currently does).
Given that it is unlikely that you would sack Mr Lambert at this time (despite his appalling and worsening record), the solution appears to me to be the rapid acquisition of some decent coaches. It is obvious that whilst Mr Lambert does have some valuable qualities (scouting and selecting new recruits for example) the real need now is for better coaching and tactics; something which our current manager has regularly demonstrated he is deficient in. The team needs to be ‘re-chipped’ – and fast! – in all aspects of the game. What is being done to achieve this?

We need to act now: 11 goals in 23 Premiership games is unacceptable (unbelievable) and does not suggest any escape from relegation. Doing the same as we have been doing to date will lead to disaster.


I don't expect an answer but we have tovoice our opinion at every juncture.

That is a most eloquent letter my friend. Well done.

It is but the thought of coaches coming in to prop up the most inept manager in an effort to keep the status quo makes me feel sick.
It's beyond ridiculous that Lambert is still in a job. It's pathetic. There is no other football chairman/CEO in the country that would have allowed this situation to escalate to such a state, not even Carson Yeung and he's bloody locked up in a jail in China.
Philly: I agree, but we have to be sanguine right now - let's do what needs to be done to stay up and have the post-mortem in May.

Ron: thanks.

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2015, 08:11:17 PM »
I e-mailed just after the run of "easy" games around Christmas - a welcome to our club, a little history of why I support the club, why I had not renewed and then a list of Lambert's "achievements" followed by a request that they consider an alternative.

No reply obviously but I shall continue to send a running commentary of this fans journey through a miserable season...

Offline dekko

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2015, 08:17:52 PM »
Fox claimed in the BBC interview the other day that he reads all the emails he gets.  I'm not sure I believe him on that count, but I bet you he has a flunky weeding out the sweary emails and ones written all in caps, and passing some on.  Even if he doesn't read them the increase in traffic certainly will be noted.

Of course this email campaign will be useless if it isnt followed up by further action from the supporters.  There are a lot of ways we can make our displeasure felt, and if we want to see anything done we need to keep up the pressure.  Personally I think it's too late for this season, and Lambert will stay in charge, but we can damn well try and make sure that he wont stay past the summer.

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2015, 08:23:15 PM »
I have just popped back to see what people think

Listen, I cannot make anyone do or not do anything.

However, all I can say is, to those who say "whats the point" or similar, the answer is "whats the point of anything"

What was the point of about 150 people doing an 8 minute protest - I tell you what the point was - that protest was over every TV, Radio and Newspaper for about 7 days before - it highlighted our issue !!.

Now that didn;t work because fans (inc. myself) did not want to miss the game or hurt the team.

This is getting your point across in a way, as long as it is polite, that is non-threatening and in a correct way.

He may not read them, however, Jonathon Fear is in contact with Randy Lerner and has emailed him personally yesterday regarding the issues, and Mr Lerner will know that this is taking place.

Now, if I emploed a CEO who, having received 1000's of complaints about my company, and had just hit the delete button without even getting someone to look at them - I would want to know what I was paying my CEO and the customer complaints team for.

As I said, I can't make anyone do anything, but if your attitude is "whats the point" then you really have to look at yourself.

Before my time, people marched on Digbeth in order to save our club - I imagine people then said "whats the point !"

If you care about the club, you would take 5 minutes out of your time to do it.

Then, if they don't read them, if they delete them - that is THEIR issue, you have done your bit

Up the Villa

A Vitalvillan in peace !

Fair play to you for trying to generate some momentum.
For the record, I have already emailed.

Maybe, just maybe, someone will listen if there are enough voices (emails) saying the same thing.

Offline Risso

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2015, 08:30:15 PM »
He'll be sat there deleting each one in turn, muttering "false narrative", "false narrative", "narrative, false", "well that narrative is just plain wrong", "false narrative", "untrue narrative".......

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2015, 08:46:08 PM »
Keeping a steady flow of e-mails may be better than a sudden influx followed by silence?
I am going to bore Tom to death with detailed reports of my days out at Villa Park from a fan perspective including the funniest chants and general witicisms of the Holte End.


Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Please email Tom Fox if you feel the current situation is unacceptable
« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2015, 08:47:26 PM »
The pen is mightier than the sword.

 


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