Would it be more fun if we went down?

[peter w]

It's be fun if we win games regularly. If not the shit we are facing now would increase a thousandfold if we struggle to beat the likes of MK Dons, Walsall, Brentford etc

[dave.woodhall]

George Ramsay was never manager, neither was Billy Smith, and the latter wasn't our last secretary either. Jimmy McMullan seems to have been both our first and our third manager, so well done him. Alex Massie left in 1949, not 1950. Eric Houghton was not our only manager to become a director. We didn't win the 1982 Super Cup.

http://www.worldfootball.net/teams/aston-villa/9/
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=154&teamTabs=managers
Where have you got your info from mate, these sites  says Massie left in 1950 and so does wiki?

I got my information from a book about Villa managers entitled McMullan to O'Leary, written by a devillishly handsome scribe who in turn got it from the Birmingham Mail archives.

[DB]

No.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I can't see how it could possibly be less fun than we're having being the worst team in the Premier League

[DB]

Well the alternative is we stay up, therefore won't be the worse club in the PL. Nothing good comes from relegation. Shitter football, lower income, puts the club back years, no guarantee of coming back up, piss taken from the our rivals.
However shit things are now, they will be a lot shitter if we went down...which is looking very likely.
It shows how bad things are, how low our expectations...fun in the Championship. We should be having fun in the PL and competing again!
I am preparing for it but not looking fwd to playing Huddersfield on a Weds night.

[aj2k77]

About as fun as bumming a donkey if you haven't had sex for a while. I don't see any appeal in playing Rotherham in front of 25,000, potentially on a fucking stupid night like a Tuesday where they up their game and play like their lives depend on it. How about the club just sorts itself out, takes it's arse out of it's hands and starts making good decisions. Preferably without Lerner anywhere near us.

[Billy Walker]

No. No. No.

[DB]

About as fun as bumming a donkey if you haven't had sex for a while. I don't see any appeal in playing Rotherham in front of 25,000, potentially on a fucking stupid night like a Tuesday where they up their game and play like their lives depend on it. How about the club just sorts itself out, takes it's arse out of it's hands and starts making good decisions. Preferably without Lerner anywhere near us.

Amen.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Well the alternative is we stay up, therefore won't be the worse club in the PL.

I said worst team, not club. After Newcastle, we're by far the worst club in the league at the moment, regardless of whether we stay up or not

[phantom limb]

I don't think we as fans have much choice.

[Bad English]

It may have been pointed out over the last 16 pages but shouldn't the title be "WILL it be more fun WHEN..." ?


*doesn't 'run off' to 'don' tin hat*

[cdbearsfan]

Technically we did win the 1982 Super Cup. As all the finals are now one leg played the same year as the main finals, UEFA have changed history so that all the previous competitions count the same way,  to avoid the anomaly of having two Super Cup winners in the same year.

[not3bad]

I'd say considering the likelihood of us going down, it's time to start looking for the positives.

[Jimbo]

It's the final stage of grief. We're finally there after all these years of trauma. The previous stage, depression, peaked for me during the worldwide humiliation of the FA Cup final. I really couldn't care much after that. Now I've accepted what's happened to us, and relegation will come as some kind of perverse relief after the prolonged agony of hanging on. It's all a bit like the boy who has been told by the other children he can't play with them: "I don't like that stupid game anyway."

Of course, the fallacy that everything will be better, more fun, in the Championship is one of the saddest in football. Small Heath logic. The Championship is not where Villa belongs, but it probably is where what Villa have become belongs. My fear is this: will what Villa have become (weak, apathetic, complacent losers) be good enough to hold its own in that tough, ugly, gritty, shitty league? I really don't know about that.

One thing I hope is that when the inevitable happens, we don't have any blarting. Close-up shots of blubbering fatsos snivelling into their replica shirts are for the likes of Newcastle United. We all know what's coming (and if it doesn't come it'll be a small miracle) so let's go out with a bang. Let's have a party.       

[joe_c]

I was sort of resigned to relegation but then it struck me how horrible the printed shirt numbers and names are in the lower leagues so I'd be keen to avoid those monstrosities soiling the claret and blue.