Fox says sacking Lambert would be like flicking a coin??

[ez]

It's frustrating that everyone in a position of power at the club talks out of their arse. I'd love just one of them to call a spade a spade and say it's not fucking good enough and things are going to change.

To be fair they have said it repeatedly over the past few years. Including  3 managers, both CEO's and the owner.

All have said its not good enough and the priority is getting the club "back up where it belongs".

Talking about it has been no problem.

How many times have you heard the manager come on the radio and say ''look that wasn't good enough''. How many times have we put in a performance that clearly wasn't good enough? How many times have we been told that scoring 0 again was excellent?

If we were excellent as often as he says we were we'd be in the top 4 now. Does he not feel like an idiot saying it.

[Dante Lavelli]

It's frustrating that everyone in a position of power at the club talks out of their arse. I'd love just one of them to call a spade a spade and say it's not fucking good enough and things are going to change.

Well said !

Really?  Yes he should be sacked, but do you really want the CEO publicly bad mouthing current employees?  It would put massive pressure on lambert and possibly put off future managers. 

[hilts_coolerking]

Really?  Yes he should be sacked, but do you really want the CEO publicly bad mouthing current employees?  It would put massive pressure on lambert and possibly put off future managers.

It's immaterial really.  They don't think he's doing a bad job, they don't want to sack him and consequently he's under no pressure at all.

[curlytailavfc]

just fuck him off

[Steve67]

It's frustrating that everyone in a position of power at the club talks out of their arse. I'd love just one of them to call a spade a spade and say it's not fucking good enough and things are going to change.

Well said !

Really?  Yes he should be sacked, but do you really want the CEO publicly bad mouthing current employees?  It would put massive pressure on lambert and possibly put off future managers. 

Perhaps the happy medium is to not say anything at all. All Fox has managed to do is piss people off with this latest speech.  He hasn't exactly backed Lambert, he hasn't exactly slated him in public either. In fact, the whole speel is altogether confusing, and pointless.  Personally, I hope the whole thing leads to a major overhaul in the summer because the one thing he did say that I totally agree with is that most things, good and bad, come through the Manager, and if we think ours is a tit,  then the summer would be a good time to put this right. No more shit, no more words, action. Show us.

[Dante Lavelli]

It's frustrating that everyone in a position of power at the club talks out of their arse. I'd love just one of them to call a spade a spade and say it's not fucking good enough and things are going to change.

Well said !

Really?  Yes he should be sacked, but do you really want the CEO publicly bad mouthing current employees?  It would put massive pressure on lambert and possibly put off future managers. 

Perhaps the happy medium is to not say anything at all. All Fox has managed to do is piss people off with this latest speech.  He hasn't exactly backed Lambert, he hasn't exactly slated him in public either. In fact, the whole speel is altogether confusing, and pointless.  Personally, I hope the whole thing leads to a major overhaul in the summer because the one thing he did say that I totally agree with is that most things, good and bad, come through the Manager, and if we think ours is a tit,  then the summer would be a good time to put this right. No more shit, no more words, action. Show us.

Reading this thread, I agree with that.  You get one half of fans moaning that they don't say anything and the other half moaning when they do pop their heads above the parapet.  Damned if they do...

[saunders_heroes]

It's frustrating that everyone in a position of power at the club talks out of their arse. I'd love just one of them to call a spade a spade and say it's not fucking good enough and things are going to change.

Well said !

Really?  Yes he should be sacked, but do you really want the CEO publicly bad mouthing current employees?  It would put massive pressure on lambert and possibly put off future managers. 

Perhaps the happy medium is to not say anything at all. All Fox has managed to do is piss people off with this latest speech.  He hasn't exactly backed Lambert, he hasn't exactly slated him in public either. In fact, the whole speel is altogether confusing, and pointless.  Personally, I hope the whole thing leads to a major overhaul in the summer because the one thing he did say that I totally agree with is that most things, good and bad, come through the Manager, and if we think ours is a tit,  then the summer would be a good time to put this right. No more shit, no more words, action. Show us.

Reading this thread, I agree with that.  You get one half of fans moaning that they don't say anything and the other half moaning when they do pop their heads above the parapet.  Damned if they do...

When they open their mouths though it's usually PR bullshit.

[hilts_coolerking]

Reading this thread, I agree with that.  You get one half of fans moaning that they don't say anything and the other half moaning when they do pop their heads above the parapet.  Damned if they do...

To be honest I think most fans just want to hear something meaningful rather than the platitudes we usually get, as in today's case.  You wait ages for some sort of statement and when it finally arrives it's a load of old pony.

[Dante Lavelli]

I'm clearly in a minority but I've been impressed with what Fox has said to date.  Getting the balance between ambition and realistic targets just about right.  Diplomatic too. 

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Just listened to his interview on the radio, what a pile of patronising shite. 'False narratives' my arse, you spend less than everyone else year after year (at a time when turnover is £30m > than during the O'Neil years), you will generally get inferior players and finish lower down the league than them. The longer you do this the less likely you are to buck the trend. I could present statistics to prove this obvious and simple fact if he doesn't believe me...

Secondly no-one's going to buy this crap about us being on track for top half finishes, cup finals and European runs. In this, Lambert's 3rd season we have made zero progress from his first in terms of league position. And are we supposed to believe the owner knows what a long term plan is? We've already had 'the 5 year plan' which mysteriously vanished into thin air, followed by the most ridiculously polar managerial appointments one could imagine.

in short, fuck off Tom.

[dave.woodhall]

Just listened to his interview on the radio, what a pile of patronising shite. 'False narratives' my arse, you spend less than everyone else year after year (at a time when turnover is £30m > than during the O'Neil years), you will generally get inferior players and finish lower down the league than them. The longer you do this the less likely you are to buck the trend. I could present statistics to prove this obvious and simple fact if he doesn't believe me...

Secondly no-one's going to buy this crap about us being on track for top half finishes, cup finals and European runs. In this, Lambert's 3rd season we have made zero progress from his first in terms of league position. And are we supposed to believe the owner knows what a long term plan is? We've already had 'the 5 year plan' which mysteriously vanished into thin air, followed by the most ridiculously polar managerial appointments one could imagine.

in short, fuck off Tom.

Thank you for that thoughtful contribution to the debate.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

You're welcome.

[olaftab]

Sacking Lambert would be like flicking a coin with two heads.

[Hoppo]

Can anyone tell me these things that are going on behind the scenes? It did seem like patronizing drivel.
Of course the likes of Gabby are saying nice things about the gaffer, he never drops them.

[LTA]

I don't get why Fox cant just come out and be straight with people, rather than this irritating habit of talking in riddles.

He's basically Paul Faulkner with an American accent.