Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread.

[tomd2103]

Just watched MOTD, Benteke and Baker missed sitters to be fair. We looked very open at the back. Baker's complete lack of positional sense not good enough at this level.

Just saw the goals after being at the game.  Agree about Baker, but Okore totally lost Borini for their first goal. 

[Dante Lavelli]

Where's Clark?  suspended?

[Toronto Villa]

Where's Clark?  suspended?

Sending off in the last game, two yellows.

[Nastylee]

Watching MOTD tonight has seen me witness some jammy goals and deflections. Why can't we get one to bounce off a knee?

[brontebilly]

He's still trying to use the fuels backs as width. It's an utterly shit tactic and he doesn't see it. He must think we have Carlos Alberto and Roberto Carlos and not Hutton and Cissokho back there. Dope. It improved once Gil came on because, apparently he is good at it. I have no doubt in the next game he'll go back to the same old shit and drop Gil to the bench.

Going to have to try Richardson and Bacuna on the wings with Gil off Benteke.

Bojan, Eriksen provided moments of quality that won their sides games today, we have nothing in midfield that remotely compares to those two even.

[Nastylee]

PS - the two CBs looked poor today.

[PeterWithesShin]

In fairness to Baker, he's only trained for a week after 2 months out, he was bound to be a bit rusty. I don't think there's any way we'd have started him but for necessity. And it was a very good challenge he did in the second half.

[Nastylee]

PPS - Ruud's MOTD performance is almost on a par with our current form.

[brontebilly]

Just watched MOTD, Benteke and Baker missed sitters to be fair. We looked very open at the back. Baker's complete lack of positional sense not good enough at this level.

Just saw the goals after being at the game.  Agree about Baker, but Okore totally lost Borini for their first goal.

Think Cleverley should take the majority of blame for the first. Let Henderson run behind him for the cross

Delph lost the ball for the second but Baker pushed up stupidly afterwards instead of holding his position.

[papa lazarou]

Liverpool are not a great team. What they do far better than us, (basically because on the whole we don't), is create space and offer opportunities to the man in possession. We are unbelievably static. Movement off the ball is so poor. What goes on in training?

[tomd2103]

He's still trying to use the fuels backs as width. It's an utterly shit tactic and he doesn't see it. He must think we have Carlos Alberto and Roberto Carlos and not Hutton and Cissokho back there. Dope. It improved once Gil came on because, apparently he is good at it. I have no doubt in the next game he'll go back to the same old shit and drop Gil to the bench.

Going to have to try Richardson and Bacuna on the wings with Gil off Benteke.

I see Richardson as more of a central midfielder these days.  We desperately need to bring wide players in. 

[claret and blue blood]

Liverpool are not a great team. What they do far better than us, (basically because on the whole we don't), is create space and offer opportunities to the man in possession. We are unbelievably static. Movement off the ball is so poor. What goes on in training?

that was my observation today and it can only be coaching, Rodgers is hands on and good at pass and move, we are not great at passing and hardly move at all.

[olaftab]

A few thoughts..........

Cleverley is just as bad out wide as he is in the middle.

This is unfair. There is only one place where Cleverley looks bad and that's a football pitch.

[Villa in Denmark]

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that with us lacking an assistant manager, and Lambert by his own admission doesn't spend much time taking training, the players must just be left to their own devices at Bodymoor Heath.

It would explain the complete lack of tactics, the don't lose to badly or someone will start asking questions performances, the inability to alter the starting 11 unless forced by injuries.

(Move to conspiracy theories thread if more appropriate :-) )

[papa lazarou]

Liverpool are not a great team. What they do far better than us, (basically because on the whole we don't), is create space and offer opportunities to the man in possession. We are unbelievably static. Movement off the ball is so poor. What goes on in training?

that was my observation today and it can only be coaching, Rodgers is hands on and good at pass and move, we are not great at passing and hardly move at all.

It's been like it for a long, long time so the lack of coaching it most probably is. Sanchez stands out as an exception but he needs the team mates to pass to.