Liverpool protest ?

[NeilH]

I’ve heard apathetic being mentioned a number of times with regards to our fans and I take a little exception to this. Apathetic seems to imply that we either don’t’ care, or do care and can’t be bothered. My take on it is that we do care, but know that in reality we can do bugger all about it. Lerner is not going to listen to us, Lambert is certainly not going to walk away from a lucrative contract and the bottom line is that we gave up our say in the club when we all flogged our shares to Randy Lerner. We own no piece of the club now and Lerner can frankly do what the hell he pleases.

[dekko]

EDIT:  Agreed ^^^

I thought the protest was a poor idea, but if the idea was to put the spotlight ob the club / pressure on Lambert then it has certainly done that.

This is my thinking also.

On a related note, how often do you actually see press and pundits actually outright saying 'this manager is not up to the job'?  I'd say its fairly rare (probably because many footy journos are lazy they tend to just say anyone outside the top 8 or so 'hasn't had any money to spend').

[Ads]

I’ve heard apathetic being mentioned a number of times with regards to our fans and I take a little exception to this. Apathetic seems to imply that we either don’t’ care, or do care and can’t be bothered.

Quite.

I have driven 1176 miles following us over our last five league games and I haven't seen us score a single goal. Anybody who wishes to suggest I don't care, can fuck off.

[TimTheVillain]

and Lerner can frankly do what the hell he pleases.

... he is dong just that. He pleases to do nothing.

[aj2k77]

I’ve heard apathetic being mentioned a number of times with regards to our fans and I take a little exception to this. Apathetic seems to imply that we either don’t’ care, or do care and can’t be bothered.

Quite.

I have driven 1176 miles following us over our last five league games and I haven't seen us score a single goal. Anybody who wishes to suggest I don't care, can fuck off.

What was more interesting? The drive or the matches?

[richard moore]

I’ve heard apathetic being mentioned a number of times with regards to our fans and I take a little exception to this. Apathetic seems to imply that we either don’t’ care, or do care and can’t be bothered. My take on it is that we do care, but know that in reality we can do bugger all about it. Lerner is not going to listen to us, Lambert is certainly not going to walk away from a lucrative contract and the bottom line is that we gave up our say in the club when we all flogged our shares to Randy Lerner. We own no piece of the club now and Lerner can frankly do what the hell he pleases.

I think you will find with regard to the last sentence that that is exactly what he is doing and what concerns us the most....

[Ads]

To add an equally meaningless statistic to club Lambert over the head with, I have travelled 4641.8 miles following us in the league this season, which works out at 421.98 miles per goal.

Split between Villa Park and away from home, this comes to: 267.14 miles per goal at Villa Park and 692.95 miles per goal on the road.

My car will do, roughly 0.12p to the mile, so its currently costing me £50.64 in fuel, although I drive faster when we lose.

Fuck off Lambert!

[Malandro]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/sport-opinion/abuse-football-fans-dish-out-8474596

Annoying.

[pauliewalnuts]

To add an equally meaningless statistic to club Lambert over the head with, I have travelled 4641.8 miles following us in the league this season, which works out at 421.98 miles per goal.

Split between Villa Park and away from home, this comes to: 267.14 miles per goal at Villa Park and 692.95 miles per goal on the road.

My car will do, roughly 0.12p to the mile, so its currently costing me £50.64 in fuel, although I drive faster when we lose.

Fuck off Lambert!

You should tweet that to a newspaper or something.

A monumentally depressing "this is what it is like" story in real-life terms.

[Malandro]

To add an equally meaningless statistic to club Lambert over the head with, I have travelled 4641.8 miles following us in the league this season, which works out at 421.98 miles per goal.

Split between Villa Park and away from home, this comes to: 267.14 miles per goal at Villa Park and 692.95 miles per goal on the road.

My car will do, roughly 0.12p to the mile, so its currently costing me £50.64 in fuel, although I drive faster when we lose.

Fuck off Lambert!

I'm laughing with you

[Ads]

To add an equally meaningless statistic to club Lambert over the head with, I have travelled 4641.8 miles following us in the league this season, which works out at 421.98 miles per goal.

Split between Villa Park and away from home, this comes to: 267.14 miles per goal at Villa Park and 692.95 miles per goal on the road.

My car will do, roughly 0.12p to the mile, so its currently costing me £50.64 in fuel, although I drive faster when we lose.

Fuck off Lambert!

You should tweet that to a newspaper or something.

A monumentally depressing "this is what it is like" story in real-life terms.

I am not on Twitter unfortuantely. I am just bored at work, although not as bored as watching us.

That 421 miles per goal will get you from Lands End to Thirsk in N. Yorkshire. Google reckons it would take 6 hours, which is only two less than since we last scored a league goal.

"This is how it feels to support Villa!
This is how it feels to be bored!
This is how it feels when your team scores nothing at all
Nothing at all
Nothing at all
Nothing at all"

Its aging me at the moment. Honestly, I feel like the baddie at the end of the Last Crusade watching Lambert swamp yet more central midfielders into the soup of tedium.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

To add an equally meaningless statistic to club Lambert over the head with, I have travelled 4641.8 miles following us in the league this season, which works out at 421.98 miles per goal.

Just in case you may be questioning your sanity, that's the equivalent of having to drive to Osnabrück, Lower Saxony in Germany every time you want to see a goal.

[PeterWithesShin]

For those that can't click on links at work etc, here are the 'wise' words from Gary Newbon from Malandro's post.

Only a handful of Aston Villa spectators made a stupid protest (for the opening eight minutes) of the home match with Liverpool. Who do these people really think they are?

Football fans are entitled to give their opinions and praise or criticise what they see on the pitch. But the abuse they dish out to football owners, who sink chunks of their own fortunes into the clubs, is disgraceful and out of order.

American Randy Lerner has spent around £300million on Villa and this cheap, planned protest against the eight years of his stewardship was ridiculous.

Lerner backed his first manager Martin O’Neill with heavy funds. Martin achieved sixth place in the Premier League, took Villa to two Wembley appearances (League Cup final and semi-final of FA Cup) but now Lerner, understandably, has put a brake on transfers.

He spends most of his time in the USA hoping that he can sell the club but he will not get his wish to get all his money back. He has already discovered that. Who would own a football club? Meanwhile, most of the Villa fans turned up on Saturday (over 39,000) and got behind their side, who were unlucky.

At one point, Birmingham fans turned on then owners David Sullivan and David Gold. I bet they would love them back now.

Instead, Sullivan and Gold are enjoying a high-flying time at West Ham where sticking with Sam Allardyce is paying off. West Ham are unbeaten this year and in seventh spot.

In midweek, I travelled on the train with a mate, Lord Snape (formerly Peter Snape, West Bromwich MP), and we talked about this subject. He helped save his club Stockport County from administration and all he got was abuse.

A couple of seasons ago they played their last game at Kidderminster. They had to win to stay in the Football League. We were both going but Kidderminster told Stockport’s board they could not attend due to safety reasons.

There were threats from the Stockport supporters that they would storm the directors’ box and possibly attack their board.

Lord Snape left the club, who have been relegated two divisions outside the Football League. They still owe him money and the fans are still abusing him on websites.

Stoke’s chairman Peter Coates has done a great job. But first time around he received abuse and threats. Now he is treated with the respect he deserves.

At the weekend, I was at Leicester-Stoke. The Leicester fans appreciate what their Thai owners are doing for the club and, apart from one stupid spectator who was recently involved in an altercation with Nigel Pearson, the Foxes supporters are right behind their manager... and Leicester are still bottom of the Premier League.

I co-hosted the packed Leicester Mercury Sports Awards on Thursday and Pearson received the biggest applause of the night. They appreciate what he has done for the club, and they may still stay up as it is so tight at the bottom.

So if you want to part with your fortune, get little credit but plenty of abuse... buy a football club.

The abuse will come from people who have no responsibility for running the club or investment – apart from buying their match ticket albeit with hard-earned cash. Sure they have a right to fairly criticise the manager and players if warranted but do not bash the sugar daddies!

Most football fans appreciate that but there are enough trying to make a name for themselves and take out their frustration on rich benefactors, who must think at times they are mugs.

Perhaps they are, because when they leave they are soon forgotten and they will never get much credit. When the team wins trophies, it is always about the manager and players. Fair enough!

[PeterWithe]

I wonder when Gary Newbon last put his hand in his pocket for a match ticket?

[pauliewalnuts]

For those that can't click on links at work etc, here are the 'wise' words from Gary Newbon from Malandro's post.

Only a handful of Aston Villa spectators made a stupid protest (for the opening eight minutes) of the home match with Liverpool. Who do these people really think they are?

Football fans are entitled to give their opinions and praise or criticise what they see on the pitch. But the abuse they dish out to football owners, who sink chunks of their own fortunes into the clubs, is disgraceful and out of order.

American Randy Lerner has spent around £300million on Villa and this cheap, planned protest against the eight years of his stewardship was ridiculous.

Lerner backed his first manager Martin O’Neill with heavy funds. Martin achieved sixth place in the Premier League, took Villa to two Wembley appearances (League Cup final and semi-final of FA Cup) but now Lerner, understandably, has put a brake on transfers.

He spends most of his time in the USA hoping that he can sell the club but he will not get his wish to get all his money back. He has already discovered that. Who would own a football club? Meanwhile, most of the Villa fans turned up on Saturday (over 39,000) and got behind their side, who were unlucky.

At one point, Birmingham fans turned on then owners David Sullivan and David Gold. I bet they would love them back now.

Instead, Sullivan and Gold are enjoying a high-flying time at West Ham where sticking with Sam Allardyce is paying off. West Ham are unbeaten this year and in seventh spot.

In midweek, I travelled on the train with a mate, Lord Snape (formerly Peter Snape, West Bromwich MP), and we talked about this subject. He helped save his club Stockport County from administration and all he got was abuse.

A couple of seasons ago they played their last game at Kidderminster. They had to win to stay in the Football League. We were both going but Kidderminster told Stockport’s board they could not attend due to safety reasons.

There were threats from the Stockport supporters that they would storm the directors’ box and possibly attack their board.

Lord Snape left the club, who have been relegated two divisions outside the Football League. They still owe him money and the fans are still abusing him on websites.

Stoke’s chairman Peter Coates has done a great job. But first time around he received abuse and threats. Now he is treated with the respect he deserves.

At the weekend, I was at Leicester-Stoke. The Leicester fans appreciate what their Thai owners are doing for the club and, apart from one stupid spectator who was recently involved in an altercation with Nigel Pearson, the Foxes supporters are right behind their manager... and Leicester are still bottom of the Premier League.

I co-hosted the packed Leicester Mercury Sports Awards on Thursday and Pearson received the biggest applause of the night. They appreciate what he has done for the club, and they may still stay up as it is so tight at the bottom.

So if you want to part with your fortune, get little credit but plenty of abuse... buy a football club.

The abuse will come from people who have no responsibility for running the club or investment – apart from buying their match ticket albeit with hard-earned cash. Sure they have a right to fairly criticise the manager and players if warranted but do not bash the sugar daddies!

Most football fans appreciate that but there are enough trying to make a name for themselves and take out their frustration on rich benefactors, who must think at times they are mugs.

Perhaps they are, because when they leave they are soon forgotten and they will never get much credit. When the team wins trophies, it is always about the manager and players. Fair enough!

What a humungous pile of horse shit that is.