Whose to blame for Comical Lambert ?

[Ads]

You want your team to be doing better. There's nothing wrong with that - as I keep saying, it's what every supporter in the word wants but you still haven't said anything about how it's going to happen.

Persuading the chairman to stop running the club on a bloody shoestring would be a start.

How?

[NeilH]

You want your team to be doing better. There's nothing wrong with that - as I keep saying, it's what every supporter in the word wants but you still haven't said anything about how it's going to happen.

Persuading the chairman to stop running the club on a bloody shoestring would be a start.

How?

Indeed, if Lerner is desperate to sell us and has lost all interest in us, why would he spend more money? A shoestring is surely all we can expect until he is gone.

[saunders_heroes]

You want your team to be doing better. There's nothing wrong with that - as I keep saying, it's what every supporter in the word wants but you still haven't said anything about how it's going to happen.

Persuading the chairman to stop running the club on a bloody shoestring would be a start.

How?

By protesting.
It's better than sitting there doing nothing. Even if it doesn't work at least we've bloody tried.

[Damo70]

You want your team to be doing better. There's nothing wrong with that - as I keep saying, it's what every supporter in the word wants but you still haven't said anything about how it's going to happen.

Persuading the chairman to stop running the club on a bloody shoestring would be a start.

How?

By protesting.
It's better than sitting there doing nothing. Even if it doesn't work at least we've bloody tried.

For some reason that rallying call put me in mind of Gene Hackman in The Posiedon Adventure.

[saunders_heroes]

You want your team to be doing better. There's nothing wrong with that - as I keep saying, it's what every supporter in the word wants but you still haven't said anything about how it's going to happen.

Persuading the chairman to stop running the club on a bloody shoestring would be a start.

How?

By protesting.
It's better than sitting there doing nothing. Even if it doesn't work at least we've bloody tried.

For some reason that rallying call put me in mind of Gene Hackman in The Posiedon Adventure.

Yeah, from one sinking ship to another.

[Clampy]

You want your team to be doing better. There's nothing wrong with that - as I keep saying, it's what every supporter in the word wants but you still haven't said anything about how it's going to happen.

Persuading the chairman to stop running the club on a bloody shoestring would be a start.

How?

By protesting.
It's better than sitting there doing nothing. Even if it doesn't work at least we've bloody tried.

Will you be joining in the protest on Saturday out of interest?

[remy]

Without wishing to piss on everyone chips, I am really struggling with this concept of wanting the club back and its key goal. It’s a known fact that Lerner wants to sell up and it’s a known fact that until he does we are totally and utterly stuck in limbo. Given that he is going to spend the bare minimum until such time as we can be sold, I simply fail to see how a protest or indeed any other action about wanting our club back would be beneficial. Surely it’s a fact that until we get a buyer for the club, no matter how loud we scream and shout, nothing whatsoever will change. It’s a horrible and totally unpalatable truth, but it’s where we are right now.

As regards Lambert, as I pointed out yesterday, he’s been a total and utter letdown, even though the sentiment for hiring him was sound. It’s obvious that we should be in a better position than where we are, but to me it’s also equally obvious that given the paucity of funds and a great reluctance to spend any more on payoffs (see above), we are stuck with him for at least this season. I genuinely believe that the aim of the club is to maintain the status quo until such time as a buyer is in the offing. Up to now, Lambert has just managed to achieve this (just) and has ticked all of Lerner’s requirements.

I’ve said before, that I firmly believe that the club has provisions in place already for a relegation, as the risk of us going down is simply too high to ignore. Little has been done to arrest the declining crowds and I suspect an even greater decline would also prompt a change in tack. Bottom line is that the infrastructure is in place, the support base remains there and would almost certainly come back in the event of a new owner, so why rock the boat. As a fan it’s extremely hard to write this, as it goes against every principle of a football club and is painful for the club I love. I suspect that Lerner has long stopped caring though about the state of play on the field and has simply instructed his advisors to sell up and keep a steady ship at minimum cost until it’s done.

By the fans instigating CHANGE (of manager) through protest AFTER the game, online through social media, letters, emails to the club, petitions, banners, contacting the press, blogs, Radio WM phone ins, Birmingham Mail poll etc.

The Aston Villa fans dont want Paul Lambert in charge anymore. Give the fans what they want. They cant keep ignoring us. 

[saunders_heroes]

You want your team to be doing better. There's nothing wrong with that - as I keep saying, it's what every supporter in the word wants but you still haven't said anything about how it's going to happen.

Persuading the chairman to stop running the club on a bloody shoestring would be a start.

How?

By protesting.
It's better than sitting there doing nothing. Even if it doesn't work at least we've bloody tried.

Will you be joining in the protest on Saturday out of interest?

Yeah I'll be doing the 8 minute thing. At the very least it'll register the fans disgust at the way this club has been plunged into decline over the last 5 seasons. It's about time we stood up to be counted.

[Clampy]

I personally don't get how anyone can keep expecting a chairman to keep splashing the kind of cash that Lerner did when he first joined. I'm glad we're not paying £6m for the average likes of Sidwell and Luke Young anymore. It had to stop at some point.

[NeilH]

I personally don't get how anyone can keep expecting a chairman to keep splashing the kind of cash that Lerner did when he first joined. I'm glad we're not paying £6m for the average likes of Sidwell and Luke Young anymore. It had to stop at some point.

Damn right, O’Neill nearly bankrupted us and I would be intrigued to know how close we came to catastrophe once the reality kicked in of our costs vs revenue.
The argument has always been that it is the speed at which Lerner pulled the brake that hurt us so much. Whilst from an outsiders point of view, it clearly was drastic, I can’t help wondering in hindsight if this decision was taken in the wake of some dire predictions.

[AV82EC]

I personally don't get how anyone can keep expecting a chairman to keep splashing the kind of cash that Lerner did when he first joined. I'm glad we're not paying £6m for the average likes of Sidwell and Luke Young anymore. It had to stop at some point.

Damn right, O’Neill nearly bankrupted us and I would be intrigued to know how close we came to catastrophe once the reality kicked in of our costs vs revenue.
The argument has always been that it is the speed at which Lerner pulled the brake that hurt us so much. Whilst from an outsiders point of view, it clearly was drastic, I can’t help wondering in hindsight if this decision was taken in the wake of some dire predictions.

I'm sure Risso and the other financial bods on here will correct me but at one point we were making annual losses of £50m and were in debt to Randy for about £120m. For a company turning over about £80m at the time it was financial suicide without top 4.

[Kingthing]

Who's to blame ?

Everyone that went to Norwich on the last day of the season, you know who you are.

[mr woo]

Yeah, we crucified Doug for years, for not having a speculate to accumulate policy. As has been said many times before, Randy was very, very close to breaking through that closed shop of the top four in his first three years. For whatever reason it didn't come off and now, in a similar way to Leeds a few years back, we have to pay the price. I don't really hold any malice to the owner for that, he tried and it failed. Shit happens.

Not that he's beyond criticism though, because as far as I'm concerned, it's the manager that's come up short and my real problem is with the men in power not acting (I'm assuming through misguided loyalty as the statistics cannot be argued against) by sacking him while they had the chance and allowing the two best available candidates to toddle off into other jobs.

[Damo70]

Yeah, we crucified Doug for years, for not having a speculate to accumulate policy. As has been said many times before, Randy was very, very close to breaking through that closed shop of the top four in his first three years. For whatever reason it didn't come off and now, in a similar way to Leeds a few years back, we have to pay the price. I don't really hold any malice to the owner for that, he tried and it failed. Shit happens.

Not that he's beyond criticism though, because as far as I'm concerned, it's the manager that's come up short and my real problem is with the men in power not acting (I'm assuming through misguided loyalty as the statistics cannot be argued against) by sacking him while they had the chance and allowing the two best available candidates to toddle off into other jobs.

Two best candidates? I'm guessing Pulis but struggling for the other. Pardew?

[mr woo]

Moyes was the other. Whether he'd have been interested I wouldn't like to say.