Lambert's replacement

[Monty]

The general Spurs fan consensus is that almost anyone could have put together a few decent results with that team. I'll give him a chance etc etc - I don't have a choice - but I have a very bad feeling about this appointment. It's embarrassing to the club that we've been taken in by this absolutely obvious chancer and charlatan. I'd go so far as to say it's embarrassing to the city because this is all a big cockney deal, a wide boy and his mates in the London press corps.

Embarrassing to the city? Don't be so fucking ridiculous.

If Villa are representing the city, then we're not doing so well by falling for this London propaganda. I don't mean 'the city should be embarrassed/ashamed of itself' or anything ludicrous - I mean Villa are letting the city down.

We'd be letting the city down by appointing a cockney? Wow. Just wow.

Yep, that's what I meant. Nailed it. I didn't at all mean that we're falling for the propaganda of a bunch of mates in the in-crowd of London media. No, it's his accent.

[Chris Smith]

Sometimes the argument "if we can't compete with the best, why can't we at least try to do what Swansea and Southampton do?" crops up.

I doubt that Swansea or Southampton would consider hiring someone like Tim Sherwood.

Possibly because they are paying attention that what is happening in the world of football.

I think the point with both of those clubs is that they have followed a consistent approach over a number of years so new men coming in are walking into an established structure. Over recent years we have lurched about like a drunk at closing time so if we are going to "do a Swansea" we will be starting from a long way behind.

[Eigentor]

Toronto, Garry Monk was appointed interim manager when Swansea sacked Laudrup and did well enough to get the job permanently. It's true that he was inexperienced, but he got the job on merit.

[hilts_coolerking]

Like Cillian Murphy says in 28 Days Later, "It's not just that it's a shit idea; it's that it's so obviously a shit idea."

[Monty]

Sometimes the argument "if we can't compete with the best, why can't we at least try to do what Swansea and Southampton do?" crops up.

I doubt that Swansea or Southampton would consider hiring someone like Tim Sherwood.

Possibly because they are paying attention that what is happening in the world of football.

I think the point with both of those clubs is that they have followed a consistent approach over a number of years so new men coming in are walking into an established structure. Over recent years we have lurched about like a drunk at closing time so if we are going to "do a Swansea" we will be starting from a long way behind.

But a huge part of that is hiring managers who don't really have much of a tactical outlook. Sherwood would not be hired by Southampton or Swansea for this reason.

[Clampy]

The general Spurs fan consensus is that almost anyone could have put together a few decent results with that team. I'll give him a chance etc etc - I don't have a choice - but I have a very bad feeling about this appointment. It's embarrassing to the club that we've been taken in by this absolutely obvious chancer and charlatan. I'd go so far as to say it's embarrassing to the city because this is all a big cockney deal, a wide boy and his mates in the London press corps.

Embarrassing to the city? Don't be so fucking ridiculous.

If Villa are representing the city, then we're not doing so well by falling for this London propaganda. I don't mean 'the city should be embarrassed/ashamed of itself' or anything ludicrous - I mean Villa are letting the city down.

We'd be letting the city down by appointing a cockney? Wow. Just wow.

Yep, that's what I meant. Nailed it. I didn't at all mean that we're falling for the propaganda of a bunch of mates in the in-crowd of London media. No, it's his accent.

Mate, you're talking shit. I'll leave you to it.

[onje_villa]

This is quite interesting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=foYXM3_yaR4

Now, you can't really have issues with the way he talks and the stuff he is saying. I like this honesty.
But, this is from a bloke a who has been a manager for 5 minutes, and comes across as knob head arrogance.

Is that a bad thing or not?  Bloody hell, I'm torn.

Could work in our favour. It's certainly a break from MON and Lambert saying everything is brilliant when we've asked for them to get a rocket up the arse. Could be the sort of tonic for 13 cup finals. Long term who knows? If he comes I'll get behind him for sure.

[garyfouroaks]

I think the point with both of those clubs is that they have followed a consistent approach over a number of years so new men coming in are walking into an established structure. Over recent years we have lurched about like a drunk at closing time so if we are going to "do a Swansea" we will be starting from a long way behind.

And to be fair to the club, there was nothing wrong with the principle of appointing Lambert. Just because that appointment has not worked out should not rule our similar appointments.

[Monty]

Please do. I'll leave you to your considered views. I'm sure there are plenty of other things out there to call 'fucking ridiculous' if you misunderstand them.

[Villafirst]

Allardyce would be the best fit. He can motivate, organise and has the necessary experience. He's only got a few months left on his current deal, so it wouldn't cost that much in compensation. Why oh why our hierarchy didn't act after the run of 6 straight defeats around October/ November is beyond belief. Yet again, poor timing and decision making by the club.

[hilts_coolerking]

I think the point with both of those clubs is that they have followed a consistent approach over a number of years so new men coming in are walking into an established structure. Over recent years we have lurched about like a drunk at closing time so if we are going to "do a Swansea" we will be starting from a long way behind.

And to be fair to the club, there was nothing wrong with the principle of appointing Lambert. Just because that appointment has not worked out should not rule our similar appointments.

One of the reasons, in fact the main reason, why I wasn't keen on appointing Lambert was that he only had one season's worth of experience in the Premier League.  As it turned out he had no idea about what it take to do consistently well in the top flight.  Sherwood has even less experience.  If that's who the board want then I think they're wrong.

[curiousorange]

Allardyce might be available sooner than you think.

[Sexual Ealing]

Please do. I'll leave you to your considered views. I'm sure there are plenty of other things out there to call 'fucking ridiculous' if you misunderstand them.

You did say that Villa would be letting the city of Birmingham down if they appoint him, which is a bit silly.

[Monty]

Please do. I'll leave you to your considered views. I'm sure there are plenty of other things out there to call 'fucking ridiculous' if you misunderstand them.

You did say that Villa would be letting the city of Birmingham down if they appoint him, which is a bit silly.

Maybe, but he thought that I meant because Sherwood is a cockney, which is nowhere near what I meant.

[myf]

Swansea hired Gary Monk who most had never heard of and most thought would fail. He hasn't so I don't know that they wouldn't hire someone like him. .

A misleading argument.

Monk was appointed because he was known very well, so the risk was reduced.

Pochettino was a big gamble for saints which paid off