Lambert's replacement

[Monty]

I've been watching videos of, and about, our Tim. I'm actually embarrassed that the club is going to appoint this man. Of all the humiliations we've suffered this season, this might be the greatest. I actually can't really believe it's happening.

Isn't that all a bit over the top? We're not appointing Bobby Ball.

On the one hand we are being told he is too inexperienced and on the other that people know enough about him to totally trash him as a man and a potential manager.

Come on Chris, look at the evidence. I beg you to look at the evidence. It's an absolute miracle that this guy's getting a job in the Premier League again. And they're not going to talk to anyone else at all? Nobody? This is their guy? It's pretty embarrassing.

[garyfouroaks]

On the one hand we are being told he is too inexperienced and on the other that people know enough about him to totally trash him as a man and a potential manager.

You misrepresent the argument.

It is that his known inexperience is sufficient to rule him out.

[Boz]

Getting rid of a manager who failed because his coaching and tactics weren't good enough and replacing him with someone who is tactically weaker and who won't be bringing the guy who did the coaching in his last job seems wrong to me.  To do it In a bit of a rush without seemingly contacting anyone else despite a statement saying it wouldn't be rushed is just ridiculous. If they speak to 5-6 people and decide Sherwood is the best option then so be it but I can't bring myself to be pleased with it if he comes in like this, it looks half arsed and desperate.

That's because it is if Fox is appointing Sherwood.

[hilts_coolerking]

I've been watching videos of, and about, our Tim. I'm actually embarrassed that the club is going to appoint this man. Of all the humiliations we've suffered this season, this might be the greatest. I actually can't really believe it's happening.

Isn't that all a bit over the top? We're not appointing Bobby Ball.

On the one hand we are being told he is too inexperienced and on the other that people know enough about him to totally trash him as a man and a potential manager.

He is too inexperienced.

[ozzjim]

He is too inexperienced. He is an arrogant tosser. He does think too much of himself.

All things I won't give a toss about if he keeps us up, and he stands a better chance than Lambert did. Or indeed than Hoddle would, or Lennon who all the same comments have been made about prior to being at Bolton.

Criticising Fox for not appointing him with his assistant from Spurs before we even know what the make up of his backroom team will be seems to be very harsh too.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Getting rid of a manager who failed because his coaching and tactics weren't good enough and replacing him with someone who is tactically weaker and who won't be bringing the guy who did the coaching in his last job seems wrong to me.  To do it In a bit of a rush without seemingly contacting anyone else despite a statement saying it wouldn't be rushed is just ridiculous. If they speak to 5-6 people and decide Sherwood is the best option then so be it but I can't bring myself to be pleased with it if he comes in like this, it looks half arsed and desperate.

Very true. I read some where yesterday that we had three on the short list, Sherwood being one. Fingers and everything else crossed we have somebody else more qualified for the job.

[Toronto Villa]

I've been watching videos of, and about, our Tim. I'm actually embarrassed that the club is going to appoint this man. Of all the humiliations we've suffered this season, this might be the greatest. I actually can't really believe it's happening.

blimey Monty. I'm not in favour of the appointment either that's a tad strong. I'd be more annoyed that the search wasn't more extensive and well thought out than consider this an embarrassment. But I'd still give him a chance to prove me wrong and get behind him and the side. The majority thought Lambert was a good choice at the time and nobody saw it ending the way it did. The truth is with any new hire, we really don't know for sure how it will work out. For all of the things that make Sherwood instantly dislikable it's not like the Spurs team under him capitulated. Even after that rant post Chelsea they won 5 of 6 so he clearly ruffled the feathers of some of the players and had no affect or even motivated some. My concern would be how long can you do that before it wears thin. And I think he was fired more because it was convenient to do so at the end of the season, Levy's ego and because Pochettino was available as much as anything else. He wasn't fired because of results.

At the end of the day if he is hired we'd have to see under what circumstances they make the appointment. I would sincerely hope that the club maintain any plans they had for the structure of the club and Sherwood had agreed to work within it. Ideally there are others they are talking to also that we don't know about. It's not like Villa to openly talk about this anyway.

[itbrvilla]

If Fernandes would not meet Sherwoods terms at QPR, nor Peace at WBA, Lerner is hardly going to roll over, is he?

You wouldn't think so no?  But then maybe Sherwood eager to prove himself would come on the cheap I don't know.  All I know is that his appoitment would be a far bigger gamble for us than for him.  And your point about him not having the credentials to bring us back up is spot on and I just what I was thinking.

I would think its PR from sherwoods people to spin that way about not agreeing terms.
Also lets just see how well Ramsey does at QPR without Timmy ! Sherwood is no mug despite what people think.

Not doubting that Sherwood has things to offer or that he couldn't do something in the future.  But right now he is completely wrong for our job.  People have got carried away because of his six months at Spurs where he did a solid job but under very different conditions.  The best fit for him right now would be a club like Forest, his last name is SHERWOOD after all! Boom tish!

Difficult? Didn't they
 have over £100m talent added to that squad only made months before?

[Billy Walker]

I'd rather give the job on a short-term basis to Martin Laursen (boss) and John Carew (number two)*.  Laursen has all the required badges now - which is more than can be said for TS, I believe - and, like Big John, has plenty of passion for the club.   These two would be just as likely to fire the squad up as Sherwood in the short-term and they'd certainly unite the fans.

Apart from the many fair points raised here about his lack of experience, Tim Sherwood strikes me as being another Roy Keane: as far as I can see he loves the sound of his own voice, likes the camera in his face and simply aches to throw out a soundbite for journos.  I think he would be far more interested in his own career than Aston Villa...the red flags are too numerous to list.

If it's to be a short-term fix (and there are no suitably experienced candidates) get some Villa men in to unite us all and push us on. I'd rather have the inexperienced Martin Laursen than the inexperienced Tim Sherwood.

*Assuming they want the jobs, of course.

[Clampy]

On the one hand we are being told he is too inexperienced and on the other that people know enough about him to totally trash him as a man and a potential manager.

You misrepresent the argument.

It is that his known inexperience is sufficient to rule him out.

But people have watched video's about him. Case closed really.

[Iamkmkm]

If Tim Sherwood becomes the new manager so FFS get behind the man.

[Ger Regan]

I've been watching videos of, and about, our Tim. I'm actually embarrassed that the club is going to appoint this man. Of all the humiliations we've suffered this season, this might be the greatest. I actually can't really believe it's happening.

Isn't that all a bit over the top? We're not appointing Bobby Ball.

On the one hand we are being told he is too inexperienced and on the other that people know enough about him to totally trash him as a man and a potential manager.

Come on Chris, look at the evidence. I beg you to look at the evidence. It's an absolute miracle that this guy's getting a job in the Premier League again. And they're not going to talk to anyone else at all? Nobody? This is their guy? It's pretty embarrassing.

Has there been that solid a link with sherwood to be getting this worked up about it yet? Genuine question, because there's only been the odd newspaper story, and I wouldn't been holding that much faith in them.

[Monty]

The general Spurs fan consensus is that almost anyone could have put together a few decent results with that team. I'll give him a chance etc etc - I don't have a choice - but I have a very bad feeling about this appointment. It's embarrassing to the club that we've been taken in by this absolutely obvious chancer and charlatan. I'd go so far as to say it's embarrassing to the city because this is all a big cockney deal, a wide boy and his mates in the London press corps.

[Clampy]

The general Spurs fan consensus is that almost anyone could have put together a few decent results with that team. I'll give him a chance etc etc - I don't have a choice - but I have a very bad feeling about this appointment. It's embarrassing to the club that we've been taken in by this absolutely obvious chancer and charlatan. I'd go so far as to say it's embarrassing to the city because this is all a big cockney deal, a wide boy and his mates in the London press corps.

Embarrassing to the city? Don't be so fucking ridiculous.

[Monty]

The general Spurs fan consensus is that almost anyone could have put together a few decent results with that team. I'll give him a chance etc etc - I don't have a choice - but I have a very bad feeling about this appointment. It's embarrassing to the club that we've been taken in by this absolutely obvious chancer and charlatan. I'd go so far as to say it's embarrassing to the city because this is all a big cockney deal, a wide boy and his mates in the London press corps.

Embarrassing to the city? Don't be so fucking ridiculous.

If Villa are representing the city, then we're not doing so well by falling for this London propaganda. I don't mean 'the city should be embarrassed/ashamed of itself' or anything ludicrous - I mean Villa are letting the city down.