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Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1590 on: February 13, 2015, 06:37:41 PM »
well SSN just linked us with Klinsman, they say we are keen to speak to him
We are probably also keen to speak to Pep

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1591 on: February 13, 2015, 06:40:10 PM »
Curbishley would be a backwards step. He's too out of touch now , he doesn't even get TV work
How on earth do you know how in touch Curbishley keeps with football?
Tell me when he last managed a PL club.
West Ham.

Now, you can answer my question about how you know how in touch he is (or isn't) about what is happening in football.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1593 on: February 13, 2015, 06:45:35 PM »
Curbishley would be a backwards step. He's too out of touch now , he doesn't even get TV work
How on earth do you know how in touch Curbishley keeps with football?
Tell me when he last managed a PL club.
West Ham.

Now, you can answer my question about how you know how in touch he is (or isn't) about what is happening in football.
What's that 10 years ago. Great .
May aswell appoint Graham Taylor

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1594 on: February 13, 2015, 06:46:41 PM »
Football is constantly changing and good managers/coaches have to change to be successful.  They have to keep on redeveloping tactics/style of play.  Five years is a long time in football these days and any manager that has been out of first line hands on involvement will have lost touch.  One of the major changes has been players' attitudes and managers have to deal with this carefully to get the best out of players.  There are very few long serving managers that are willing to adapt to remain successful.  I suppose the best in recent years was SAF who not only adapted but had that one commodity that can over come any shortcomings and that was respect from the players.

I would rule out any of the names that have been out of management for more than a year unless they are active coaches at the higher level.

Above all, we need somebody who can quickly spot what is lacking in our players to form an effective team for the rest of the season.  For that we need a top quality head coach with a team of assistants.  Not only has somebody got to come up with the tactics to win games, someone else has got to work on the confidence levels of many of the players.  To spot what is wrong quickly needs a very experienced coach on the training ground.  To this end I believe that this needs to be a foreign coach because I do think we are lacking this with British managers/coaches.  The benefit of a foreign coach is that you may be able to get a 'gun for hire' short term.

For the long term I am convinced that we need a DOF that can develop the playing side from top to bottom throughout the club and can take some of the media PR away from the team manager/coach.  The days of the manager doing everything have gone or there remains a few very experienced managers that can handle it e.g. Allardyce.  This will then allow you to bring in a team coach that will have a higher profile than coaches generally in this country.  I am convinced that this is the only way that we can grow this club to be anywhere near competitive.

The short term answer needs to be somebody with the stature of someone like Guus Hiddink (obviously not him as he is tied up with Holland) or even Danny Blind before he takes over from Hiddink.

Long term - Frank de Boer with Ronald as his assistant.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1595 on: February 13, 2015, 06:47:06 PM »
I was told today that "what we need is a Brummie in charge, to let players know what an honour it should be to play for Villa".
My reply was basically what a load of bollocks, we've never had a Brummie in charge before.
Having said that I wasn't 100% sure if i was right but a bit of quick research tells me the only local born manager we've ever had was Dick Taylor (Wolverhampton) and look where that got us.
We've drawn mainly from Scotland, Merseyside, the North East and Lincolnshire. Tony Barton was the only southerner. Plus a couple of Irishmen, a Welshman and two from the continent.
Then again i'm struggling to think of a Manc who's managed United or City and can think of only Joe Royle and Roy Evans as scousers in charge at Everton or Liverpool.


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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1596 on: February 13, 2015, 06:48:38 PM »
Ray Graydon is available.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1597 on: February 13, 2015, 06:49:25 PM »
I wouldnt mind Curbishley for the run in. I would imagine he would be pretty decent in the DOF role afterwards and help us pick the right long term replacement.
He is so long out of the game you would be better off asking Ron Saunders to give it a go.
Why do you think Curbishley never gets appointed after years of being in the running?


he was coaching at Fulham not so long ago
He did 2 months there and couldn't have made that much of an impact as he was sacked when Felix Mcgraph went. 6 years at least since he managed?

his success is a different matter, you said he'd been out of the game for a long time, which he hasnt
Fair point. I was thinking as club manager. I think 6+ years is too long to be away from being a manager.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1598 on: February 13, 2015, 06:50:25 PM »
Long term - Frank de Boer with Ronald as his assistant.

Or Frank de Boer with his current assistant at Ajax - Dennis Bergkamp.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1599 on: February 13, 2015, 06:51:22 PM »
Ray Graydon is available.

I miss Fergal's signature about him scoring on the rebound. Is he still alive?

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1600 on: February 13, 2015, 06:54:23 PM »
I wouldnt mind Curbishley for the run in. I would imagine he would be pretty decent in the DOF role afterwards and help us pick the right long term replacement.

I agree, for the position were in Curbishley would be a decent appointment, others saying he is out of touch but I doubt he is and although he hasn't managed since 2009 I dont see that as an issue, he knows what it takes to keep a club in the top flight and proved that for a long period at unfashionable Charlton plus did ok at West Ham, always comes across to me as very knowledgeable, we need someone with experience to keep us up, were in the shit, we could do a lot worse than Curbishley

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1601 on: February 13, 2015, 06:54:24 PM »
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Andrew McKenna ‏@talksportMacca 45m45 minutes ago

Speaking with @talkSPORTDrive Gareth Southgate has joined the list of those saying he doesn't want the Aston Villa managers job.

which he didn't because he wants to concentrate on what he is doing, but it sounds better that he has essentially turned us down.

That tweet does not say has turned us down which would imply he dad been offered it, it says that that he does not want the job. I presume it is the "joined the list" which could be criticised.

Anyway, here is the transcript of the interview from Talk Shite.

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Former Aston Villa defender Gareth Southgate told talkSPORT the club needs to hire a manager who can instil confidence into the players otherwise they will be relegated from the Premier League, but ruled himself out of the vacancy.

Villa sacked Paul Lambert on Wednesday, with the club languished in the relegation zone, and Southgate claimed top-flight survival has to be the club's priority despite an FA Cup fifth round tie against Leicester City on Sunday.

Southgate was an FA Cup finalist with the Villans in 2000, and the 44-year-old believes the competition can act as a welcome distraction for the club.

“Wins breed confidence so from that respect you’re looking to try and win every match you go into, just to get some sort of momentum,” he told Drivetime.

“Clearly the priority for them will be staying in the Premier League and the cup will be a welcome distraction to progress, but it is probably not the most important thing at this moment in time.

“Immediately, they need someone who can try and instil some confidence into the players. Longer term they need someone to work within a restricted budget. They have a young squad with an opportunity to develop some of the players there.

“But you’ve go to get results and a game plan quickly in order to get results on the board.”

However, Southgate distanced himself from the managerial void at Villa Park, claiming he is “not going to step away” from his position at England Under-21s ahead of the European Championships in June.

He added: “[Aston Villa] is a fantastic football club and I had a brilliant time there, but I’m really enjoying what I’m doing [with the England Under-21s]. We have the European Championships this summer and we have a realistic chance of doing extremely well in that.

“You don’t get many opportunities to try and win something in your career so the summer is an opportunity for me to do that, and I’m not going to step away from what I am doing at this moment in time.”

Read more at http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-southgate-out-running-aston-villa-manager-vacancy-150213136344#osIxlwCmZsDdWHKU.99

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1602 on: February 13, 2015, 06:56:45 PM »
Beginning to wonder if the options available to us are any better than lambert. I just hope that the club can pull a decent manager in..sherwood ? Curbs ? Glen H ? No improvement on lambert as I see it.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1603 on: February 13, 2015, 06:58:29 PM »
This could be a challenge to entice anyone decent . The circumstances are certainly complex and challenging and on the face it looks a hospital pass

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1604 on: February 13, 2015, 07:02:50 PM »
Beginning to wonder if the options available to us are any better than lambert. I just hope that the club can pull a decent manager in..sherwood ? Curbs ? Glen H ? No improvement on lambert as I see it.

You are joking, aren't you? Look beyond the obvious close to home options.

 


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