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Offline Walmley_Villa

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1425 on: February 13, 2015, 12:40:04 PM »
He would not come even if there was a new owner - why on earth would you bother uprooting your family and life to come to Birmingham from California, for probably similar money. You would have to be bonkers.



He's obviously not up to the challenge so bollocks to him  ;-)

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1426 on: February 13, 2015, 12:41:42 PM »
Hoddle for me.  Sherwood has been swerved by a number of clubs for a reason.  He's a cock.

He's done nothing since Wolves. 

At least he has kept coaching.Less of a gamble than the names.
He's always struck me as someone who absolutely knows the game inside out and has a tactical brain. He might not necessarily keep the dressing room entirely sweet. But I doubt there'd be a turn in the remainder of this season. A temp job with the prospect of taking over, or becoming a DOF here might suit him.

It's a gamble, but as you say, less than some of the others and indeed our only options are going to be complete punts.

We need to strike the balance between finding someone who could turn us around in the short term, and someone who would be well suited for a long term project. It might be that a temporary option would be the way to go now and re-assess in the summer.
If we have to rebuild from the Championship, then we need someone who'll put into place a solid 2-3 year plan. I don't think Hodd would want long term managerial gig. He seems happy as a coach/advisor.

Failing this I'd like to see us try and get someone in to help Marshall and Marshall. Someone experienced. Perhaps SBL might come, or indeed Hoddle if he wasn't open to the top job.

If the options are genuinely thin then we'd be better waiting till the summer and hoping for a miracle in the next 13 games.

Offline Hillbilly

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1427 on: February 13, 2015, 12:46:47 PM »
Hoddle for me.  Sherwood has been swerved by a number of clubs for a reason.  He's a cock.

He's done nothing since Wolves. 
He did very little before Wolves either.

Online Pat McMahon

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1428 on: February 13, 2015, 12:50:35 PM »
IIRC Hoddle was renowned for alienating players and showing them up on the training ground with his own skills - and that was when he was England coach. Christ knows what he would do to Cissokho and Baker.

Technically he is a good coach / tactician (his masterminding of England's 0-0 draw in Rome in 1997 was possibly the most disciplined England performance I can recall) but he would need a number 2 to communicate with the players.

I think we need a short term appointment to keep us up, then we think long term in the summer. Sadly, by waiting so long, we have lost solid options like Pulis and Moyes - I would have had confidence in both if appointed during the transfer window.

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1429 on: February 13, 2015, 12:51:11 PM »
Hoddle for me.  Sherwood has been swerved by a number of clubs for a reason.  He's a cock.

He's done nothing since Wolves. 

At least he has kept coaching.Less of a gamble than the names.
He's always struck me as someone who absolutely knows the game inside out and has a tactical brain. He might not necessarily keep the dressing room entirely sweet. But I doubt there'd be a turn in the remainder of this season. A temp job with the prospect of taking over, or becoming a DOF here might suit him.

It's a gamble, but as you say, less than some of the others and indeed our only options are going to be complete punts.

We need to strike the balance between finding someone who could turn us around in the short term, and someone who would be well suited for a long term project. It might be that a temporary option would be the way to go now and re-assess in the summer.
If we have to rebuild from the Championship, then we need someone who'll put into place a solid 2-3 year plan. I don't think Hodd would want long term managerial gig. He seems happy as a coach/advisor.

Failing this I'd like to see us try and get someone in to help Marshall and Marshall. Someone experienced. Perhaps SBL might come, or indeed Hoddle if he wasn't open to the top job.

If the options are genuinely thin then we'd be better waiting till the summer and hoping for a miracle in the next 13 games.

He's always struck me that thinks he knows more than he does.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Just going through his Managerial career. He hasn't done anything of any real worth.

Swindon - Achieved Promotion.
Chelsea - Finished 11th
England - upset the dressing room with his treatment of the players over deciding his World Cup 98 squad, Upset Beckham by announcing publicly his dropping from the Tunisia game. Despite him being one of our best players.  Refused to play in-form Owen until it was apparent we needed his goals.  Sacked by declaring his religious beliefs.
Southampton - Lasted a year before joining Tottenham
Tottenham - Finished 10th place.
Wolves - Finished 7th.  8 points off the play offs

also taken from Wikipedia:

In April 2014 he revealed he had come close to taking over from Andre Villas Boas at Tottenham, before the job was given to Tim Sherwood.

"I did have talks with Daniel Levy and the club," Hoddle said. "He wanted a little bit of advice and a bit of a sounding board for himself. "[I said) 'I am there for you if you want me to take it to the end of the season and then we will have a little look at it then, I would be prepared to do that'. "I wouldn't do it for any other club for that short period of time. It was just that it is in my DNA. I have loved my time at other clubs, I really have, but being a Spurs supporter since I was eight, going there very young, it is in my blood

Glenn Hoddle's biggest fan is Glenn Hoddle.  He'd be a disaster. 
« Last Edit: February 13, 2015, 12:54:13 PM by Holte L2 »

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1430 on: February 13, 2015, 12:53:49 PM »
What do people think of Neil Lennon? Just curious...

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1431 on: February 13, 2015, 12:55:54 PM »
What do people think of Neil Lennon? Just curious...

Reminds me of a ginger gorilla

Offline supertom

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1432 on: February 13, 2015, 12:58:32 PM »
Hoddle for me.  Sherwood has been swerved by a number of clubs for a reason.  He's a cock.

He's done nothing since Wolves. 

At least he has kept coaching.Less of a gamble than the names.
He's always struck me as someone who absolutely knows the game inside out and has a tactical brain. He might not necessarily keep the dressing room entirely sweet. But I doubt there'd be a turn in the remainder of this season. A temp job with the prospect of taking over, or becoming a DOF here might suit him.

It's a gamble, but as you say, less than some of the others and indeed our only options are going to be complete punts.

We need to strike the balance between finding someone who could turn us around in the short term, and someone who would be well suited for a long term project. It might be that a temporary option would be the way to go now and re-assess in the summer.
If we have to rebuild from the Championship, then we need someone who'll put into place a solid 2-3 year plan. I don't think Hodd would want long term managerial gig. He seems happy as a coach/advisor.

Failing this I'd like to see us try and get someone in to help Marshall and Marshall. Someone experienced. Perhaps SBL might come, or indeed Hoddle if he wasn't open to the top job.

If the options are genuinely thin then we'd be better waiting till the summer and hoping for a miracle in the next 13 games.

He's always struck me that thinks he knows more than he does.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Just going through his Managerial career. He hasn't done anything of any real worth.

Swindon - Achieved Promotion.
Chelsea - Finished 11th at best.
England - upset the dressing room with his treatment of the players over deciding his World Cup 98 squad, Upset Beckham by announcing publicly his dropping from the Tunisia game. Despite him being one of our best players.  Refused to play in-form Owen until it was apparent we needed his goals.  Sacked by declaring his religious beliefs.
Southampton - Lasted a year before joining Tottenham
Tottenham - Another Spurs Manager that flattered to decisive.  Finished 10th place.
Wolves - Finished 7th.  8 points off the play off-s.

also taken from Wikipedia:

In April 2014 he revealed he had come close to taking over from Andre Villas Boas at Tottenham, before the job was given to Tim Sherwood.

"I did have talks with Daniel Levy and the club," Hoddle said. "He wanted a little bit of advice and a bit of a sounding board for himself. "[I said) 'I am there for you if you want me to take it to the end of the season and then we will have a little look at it then, I would be prepared to do that'. "I wouldn't do it for any other club for that short period of time. It was just that it is in my DNA. I have loved my time at other clubs, I really have, but being a Spurs supporter since I was eight, going there very young, it is in my blood

Glenn Hoddle's biggest fan is Glenn Hoddle.  He'd be a disaster. 
It would seem we're fishing in a pond full of tosspieces for our next manager.
I'm trying to think back if there was a more uninspiring selection available to us (realistically) in previous managerial change-overs. We obviously had a hell of a lot of positivity toward Lambert, as well as 2-3 other possible options, like OGS which had a hope of potential but of course in retrospect he's since been found out in this league. Before that there was Martinez and MacLaren linked before McLeish came in. Neither particularly inspired much excitement but have both solid enough track records, even if Martinez is suffering second season syndrome at Everton.

It's like going to the Chippy at 5 minutes to closing time fancying a fat piece of Cod only to find they've only got a few stale chips and dried out Spam fritters left.

What's David O' Leary up to these days?

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1433 on: February 13, 2015, 01:00:29 PM »
What do people think of Neil Lennon? Just curious...

No likey

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1434 on: February 13, 2015, 01:02:54 PM »
Quote
Kirkby ‏@tranmerekev 16h16 hours ago

Aston Villa are set to name Lenny Henry as their new manager. Apparently it's the only way they'll stay in the Premier.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1435 on: February 13, 2015, 01:03:42 PM »
No to Lennon thanks, don't like his attitude or his football. If I had a choice I'd be looking at De Boer.

Online Pat McMahon

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1436 on: February 13, 2015, 01:04:01 PM »
What do people think of Neil Lennon? Just curious...

Hard to tell given where he managed and the absence of competition but at least he is used to big club pressure (then again, so was Big Eck). Bolton seem all the better for his appointment though.

I wouldn't have cried into my chips if he came a couple of months ago - nor would I have carried him triumphantly on my shoulders - but cant see him leaving Bolton after such a short time.

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1437 on: February 13, 2015, 01:04:08 PM »
All these media experts and ex players all say hoddle is one of the best coaches out there
But they were all saying Lambert was doing a brilliant job too with the money he had spent 😝

Hoddle is part of the punditocracy, they pimp out their mates for every job going.

He was seen as a good coach 15 years ago maybe, not so much recently at QPR.

Facts are Hoddle hasnt managed since 2006 for good reason as his last two gigs were failures.

Id have Alan Curbishley all day ahead of Hoddle......and Im not recommending Curbs by any means

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1438 on: February 13, 2015, 01:05:43 PM »
This is all very depressing isn't it?  Like trawling a nightclub at last orders, weighing up a move for the fat knacker, ugly ginger bird or just head for a kebab.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Lambert's replacement
« Reply #1439 on: February 13, 2015, 01:10:26 PM »
I suppose Lennon could look like an ugly ginger bint after a few sherbets.

 


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