Lambert's replacement

[levico]

This thread is desperately sad, because we have seen it doesn't matter how pathetic performances and results are he won't be going.

Nail, head. I'd go so far as saying he'll still be in place when we go down.

[mr woo]

Young and hungry?                        Simon Grayson

No thanks, this isn't the time for risk taking, and Grayson would be far from first choice of that ilk anyway.

Fancies a PL return?                       Benitez or Klinsmann

Sounds fun, but doubt they'd take the job.

Back to the (short term) future?      Sir Graham or Sir Brian

Yesterday's news.

The classic Red Adair appointment? Albion beat us to it

100% agree. Add Moyes to that too.

The 'might not be universally popular to say the least' choice? Steve Bruce

Crikey...are we that desperate?

The light the blue touchpaper and run away choice? "How long before The Republic Of Ireland play again and would their manager be interested?"


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that's crazy!!! *








*hmm, although... if you just wanted a stop gap til may, and a pretty much nailed on shot in the arm to avoid relegation...nah....forget it....refer to Steve Bruce reply.

[Villa in Denmark]

You know you're in trouble when the fans call for ex players to take over the management team. :-(

100% agree.  Just because you were a good player, with a connection to the club, doesn't mean it will go well.

It just means you'll get an extra 6 months grace before the shit hits the fan if it all goes tits up.

[LTA]

I think just getting rid of Lambert would give the whole club a lift right now so we could make do with a caretaker (Sid?) then reevaluate in the summer when there should be more options.

Sid wont work he cant get his squad winning and it would destroy his legend status when he failed.

True. Cowans and 1 or 2 others like McAndrew have been at the club far too long now.  The club needs a total clean sweep to clear away the deadwood who have had their feet under the table to long.

We need another SGT.  Someone who is prepared to tell a few people a few home truths, kick a few backsides and to bring a sense of organization to the place.

[Damo70]

Laudrup?

Good shout.

Or De Bouer

The often overlooked French half brother of Ronald and Frank?

[Chris Smith]

If we are going to makea change it has to be done properly, not some short term appointment that will merely mean we are back in the same position in 18 months time. We have had years of managerial debates, going back to MON's final season, with only very brief interludes of calm. It is time for some grown up and joined up thinking and I think for that we probably need to wait until the summer.

[Risso]

If we are going to makea change it has to be done properly, not some short term appointment that will merely mean we are back in the same position in 18 months time. We have had years of managerial debates, going back to MON's final season, with only very brief interludes of calm. It is time for some grown up and joined up thinking and I think for that we probably need to wait until the summer.

We'll be calmly and rationally planning for life in the Championship if we do.

[Meanwood Villa]

If we are going to makea change it has to be done properly, not some short term appointment that will merely mean we are back in the same position in 18 months time. We have had years of managerial debates, going back to MON's final season, with only very brief interludes of calm. It is time for some grown up and joined up thinking and I think for that we probably need to wait until the summer.

And then appoint who? I'd be happy with Dyche. Might be another Lambert but might not. Would fuck over one of our rivals as well.

[Toronto Villa]

i'll say it, but I like what Allardyce has done at West Ham. He's bought well, his team play an agressive style where they press the opponent back. He uses wingers, he uses his CF well, (when fit). He isn't the same manager he once was with the long ball so he has tried to modernize himself. He's not afraid of taking on the bigger sides and he'll win a few of those games too.

I've seen West Ham a few times now and it's not ugly to watch. He'd be someone who knows the league well, is able to work to a budget, is from the area if that was ever a criteria, and would jump at the chance to leave those tossers he has as owners. They've only lost 6 times this season in the league and scored 3 times what we have.

He's not everyone cup of tea, and I'd gladly not have Allardyce if there was someone genuinely better out there that we could realistically get.

[mr underhill]

I think the fat one would rather work for porno dwarfs  than an absentee owner who seemingly doesn't give a shit and who clearly won't bankroll anyone

[Villa in Denmark]

If we are going to makea change it has to be done properly, not some short term appointment that will merely mean we are back in the same position in 18 months time. We have had years of managerial debates, going back to MON's final season, with only very brief interludes of calm. It is time for some grown up and joined up thinking and I think for that we probably need to wait until the summer.

Sorry Chris, I completely disagree.

If we were in the real world, this exactly the point at which some hard nosed git, with experience of turning absolute basket cases around gets brought in and has 12-24 months to sort things out.
It's always done in 4 stages.
1. Stabalise the business - identify the bits that are still functioning and start to strip out the shit that definitely isn't. Do whatever it takes to keep access to working capital. (points)
2. Start to change the management culture. Those that can't change get shown the door. Get whoever you need in on a short term basis to make sure that the wheels don't fall off. (short term contracts for experienced players towards the end of their careers if necessary - depends how could / bad the existing squad actually is.)
3. Depending on how much shit you've been in, 9-18 months to improve the working practices. Those that can't adapt again get shown the door or sidelined. Those that can benefit. Any gaps filled by cardfut recruitment. (start to build a squad that can play a style compatible with the club "style" or "philosophy")
4. Hand over to someone who can take the job on and implement the long term strategy. (Find the man to take us forward over the next 4-5 years.)

The problem we've got is now lacking a  definite strategy or style that the likes of Southampton or Swansea have implemented, which makes the above that much more difficult.

The important bit now is ensure we don't get relegated, whatever the cost and try to ensure some semblance of stability next year so that the club can break the cycle of panic and firefighting we've been locked into for the last 3 1/2 years.  Then we can start to look at building some solid foundations, which we've been missing since before DOL.

[SoccerHQ]

i'll say it, but I like what Allardyce has done at West Ham. He's bought well, his team play an agressive style where they press the opponent back. He uses wingers, he uses his CF well, (when fit). He isn't the same manager he once was with the long ball so he has tried to modernize himself. He's not afraid of taking on the bigger sides and he'll win a few of those games too.

I've seen West Ham a few times now and it's not ugly to watch. He'd be someone who knows the league well, is able to work to a budget, is from the area if that was ever a criteria, and would jump at the chance to leave those tossers he has as owners. They've only lost 6 times this season in the league and scored 3 times what we have.

He's not everyone cup of tea, and I'd gladly not have Allardyce if there was someone genuinely better out there that we could realistically get.

West Ham have changed their style and it actually works and suits their squad.

Our style is phantom is it dosen't suit our squad to pass the ball around endlessly as we have little creativity.

I put it in the wrong thread but we really need to check the euro leagues and find an experienced coach who dosen't have a dodgy heart like Houllier, is experienced and is tactically flexible.

Newly promoted teams like Southampton and Swansea have come up with Laudrup, Pochettino and Koeman in recent years.

[silhillvilla]

If we are going to makea change it has to be done properly, not some short term appointment that will merely mean we are back in the same position in 18 months time. We have had years of managerial debates, going back to MON's final season, with only very brief interludes of calm. It is time for some grown up and joined up thinking and I think for that we probably need to wait until the summer.

I actually think a short term fix just to keep us up is better than sticking with lambert . I think he's lost the plot, the dressing room and the fans too.
The wheels are off .

[Villa in Denmark]

Re Laudrup. He would have been my choice instead of, or immediately after Houllier.

He's now on a 2 year contract in Qatar, which he's said will be his last job. He's completely open about he's done it for the money, he can earn more there in a year than he was earning at Swansea over the course of his 3 year contract, after which it will be feet up time.

[Stu]

I really don't think Lambert is going anywhere, so at the moment, IMO, there is the rather more pressing matter of getting experienced first team coaches in. A look at pravda shows that the only first team coach we have at the moment is Scott Marshall; according, again to pravda, his previous experience is with academy level/u18's coaching/management at Wycombe, Brentford, Chelsea and Norwich. A couple of spells at coaching schools in Oman for Arenal and QPR thrown in. I'm sure he's an excellent professional, but first team coaching at a Prem club doesn't appear to be his forte if his online cv is anything to go by.

If Lambert is to stay, then getting in new coaching staff is an absolute must and just as important as any player signings.