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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5445 on: August 14, 2016, 12:51:23 PM »
This is clearly still a very very flat pitch. To be 4 down for under 80 on it twice is unforgivable.

Good fight by Bairstow and Ali this morning, but no way they should have been left in this position

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5446 on: August 14, 2016, 02:07:18 PM »
Farcical run out.

Broad, Finn and Anderson left. 3 no 11's

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5447 on: August 14, 2016, 02:10:17 PM »
Farcical run out.

Broad, Finn and Anderson left. 3 no 11's

Now that's not fair. Broad averages 22 after 97 matches, with a Test hundred to his name.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5448 on: August 14, 2016, 02:13:13 PM »
Farcical run out.

Broad, Finn and Anderson left. 3 no 11's

Now that's not fair. Broad averages 22 after 97 matches, with a Test hundred to his name.

Whats his average in his last 30 tests ?? and that Test hundred was possibly over 5 years ago

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5449 on: August 14, 2016, 02:15:05 PM »
Farcical run out.

Broad, Finn and Anderson left. 3 no 11's

Now that's not fair. Broad averages 22 after 97 matches, with a Test hundred to his name.

Whats his average in his last 30 tests ?? and that Test hundred was possibly over 5 years ago

So he's in prolonged bad batting form. So what? That doesn't make him a 'number 11' like Finn is.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5450 on: August 14, 2016, 02:18:52 PM »
Farcical run out.

Broad, Finn and Anderson left. 3 no 11's

Now that's not fair. Broad averages 22 after 97 matches, with a Test hundred to his name.

Whats his average in his last 30 tests ?? and that Test hundred was possibly over 5 years ago

So he's in prolonged bad batting form. So what? That doesn't make him a 'number 11' like Finn is.

I'd say his prolonged bad batting has lasted about 5 years. I think he has played like a number 11 for a large period of time now. It's been especially bad since he got hit by Varun Aaron a couple of years ago, but it was rapidly on the decline before that.

Happy to be proven wrong with him making a big century here

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5451 on: August 14, 2016, 02:19:48 PM »
Ha, I think the prospect of a Broad hundred is extremely remote, sure. Nonetheless, an average of 22 ain't too bad.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5452 on: August 14, 2016, 02:21:43 PM »
Ha, I think the prospect of a Broad hundred is extremely remote, sure. Nonetheless, an average of 22 ain't too bad.

It's a good average for a no 9. Unfortunately that is no longer what he contributes to the team.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5453 on: August 14, 2016, 02:21:49 PM »
Farcical run out.

Broad, Finn and Anderson left. 3 no 11's

Now that's not fair. Broad averages 22 after 97 matches, with a Test hundred to his name.

Whats his average in his last 30 tests ?? and that Test hundred was possibly over 5 years ago

So he's in prolonged bad batting form. So what? That doesn't make him a 'number 11' like Finn is.

His batting is in terminal decline and maybe putting him at no 11 may encourage him to do something about it as he is a talented batsmen  - You disagree I know but that is my opinion

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5454 on: August 14, 2016, 02:24:38 PM »
Farcical run out.

Broad, Finn and Anderson left. 3 no 11's

Now that's not fair. Broad averages 22 after 97 matches, with a Test hundred to his name.

Whats his average in his last 30 tests ?? and that Test hundred was possibly over 5 years ago

So he's in prolonged bad batting form. So what? That doesn't make him a 'number 11' like Finn is.

His batting is in terminal decline and maybe putting him at no 11 may encourage him to do something about it as he is a talented batsmen  - You disagree I know but that is my opinion

Actually, that might not be such a bad idea! Because he is better than no. 11, but not showing it enough at the moment.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5455 on: August 14, 2016, 04:50:49 PM »
That was a disappointing result and clearly we are still a work in progress. What I don't understand with this England side is how they can produce such extreme results. Fantastic wins one week and awful defeats the next. It was the same in last year's Ashes. It does make you question whether the problem is psychological, because most of them are technically very good.

It's been a fantastic series and the sides are well matched. It was the most harmonious series against Pakistan that I can remember for a while. Ultimately Pakistan probably edged it and it's a shame that it's only a 4 test series.

Misbah was man of the series for Pakistan and our own Chris Woakes was man of the series for England. Both richly deserved.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5456 on: August 14, 2016, 04:59:00 PM »
That was a disappointing result and clearly we are still a work in progress. What I don't understand with this England side is how they can produce such extreme results. Fantastic wins one week and awful defeats the next. It was the same in last year's Ashes. It does make you question whether the problem is psychological, because most of them are technically very good.

It's been a fantastic series and the sides are well matched. It was the most harmonious series against Pakistan that I can remember for a while. Ultimately Pakistan probably edged it and it's a shame that it's only a 4 test series.

Misbah was man of the series for Pakistan and our own Chris Woakes was man of the series for England. Both richly deserved.

I disagree with that bold bit, we've had the best bowler and the 3 best batsman in the series, our problem is that in 2 matches the rest of the attack have failed to backup woakes and we've had 2-3 of the top 5 who've struggled for form.  They've had 2 fantastic individual batting performances in the matches where we've struggled with the ball and their attack is good enough to take advantage of those.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5457 on: August 14, 2016, 05:03:30 PM »
That was a disappointing result and clearly we are still a work in progress. What I don't understand with this England side is how they can produce such extreme results. Fantastic wins one week and awful defeats the next. It was the same in last year's Ashes. It does make you question whether the problem is psychological, because most of them are technically very good.

It's been a fantastic series and the sides are well matched. It was the most harmonious series against Pakistan that I can remember for a while. Ultimately Pakistan probably edged it and it's a shame that it's only a 4 test series.

Misbah was man of the series for Pakistan and our own Chris Woakes was man of the series for England. Both richly deserved.

I disagree with that bold bit, we've had the best bowler and the 3 best batsman in the series, our problem is that in 2 matches the rest of the attack have failed to backup woakes and we've had 2-3 of the top 5 who've struggled for form.  They've had 2 fantastic individual batting performances in the matches where we've struggled with the ball and their attack is good enough to take advantage of those.

I'm not sure.

You could argue that if it wasn't for the capitulation during the afternoon session on the last day at Edgbaston then they would have won the series.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5458 on: August 14, 2016, 07:06:26 PM »
Stokes is a huge miss when he's out for England. He brings an intensity out of the side that just doesn't seem to be there without him.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2016
« Reply #5459 on: August 14, 2016, 07:10:14 PM »
Stokes is a huge miss when he's out for England. He brings an intensity out of the side that just doesn't seem to be there without him.

That's a fair point Paul. Both of Pakistan's wins have come when he hasn't played

 


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