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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3030 on: August 22, 2015, 02:23:42 PM »
I like Ali but I find it hard to believe there isn't a better spin bowler in the country than him.



I like him, good batsman and generates a lot of spin on the ball.  What he has going against him is the basic number of deliveries he's bowled.  It's very rare to see a world class spinner whose under about 26-27 and that's with them being a front line bowler at first class level for a number of years previously.  Moeen doesn't have those years behind him but importantly he knows it and has recognised the flaws in his bowling, he mentions it here (along with recognising that he needs to have variation, hence the doosra) - http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/884255.html - it's things like this that make me think he'll make it as an international spinner, his attitude is spot on.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3031 on: August 22, 2015, 02:41:45 PM »
Why are some players wearing black armbands by the way?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3032 on: August 22, 2015, 03:12:06 PM »
Lyth, Bell, Spin bowling, Buttler, Bairstow.

Lots of questions to be answered before the winter tour. Only Cook, Root, Stokes, Ali as a batsman, Broad and Anderson look nailed on. The rest of the positions could be up in the air.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3033 on: August 22, 2015, 05:18:17 PM »
Bairstow shouldn't be walking there. This is a poor show.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3034 on: August 22, 2015, 05:34:04 PM »
I wish the other top order batsmen could show Cook's application. It's alright playing aggressive, but sometimes the situation dictates a different approach.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3035 on: August 22, 2015, 05:58:41 PM »
Bairstow shouldn't be walking there. This is a poor show.

I'm not watching but I see he was out caught, if he hit it and it was caught why on earth shouldn't he walk?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3036 on: August 22, 2015, 07:22:44 PM »
Bairstow shouldn't be walking there. This is a poor show.

I'm not watching but I see he was out caught, if he hit it and it was caught why on earth shouldn't he walk?

Because it hit Voges grill, which means it's not out and he's walked after being given out incorrectly in that fashion before.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3037 on: August 22, 2015, 07:23:38 PM »
We're clearly going to lose, but Buttler needs runs tomorrow.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3038 on: August 22, 2015, 07:27:49 PM »
My thinking for the team to play Pakistan in the 1st test

Hales
Cook
Bell - Good player of spin, but last chance saloon
Root
Bairstow - Give him a chance, no one banging the door down in middle orders around the country
Ali
Stokes
Buttler - Need to invest in him. He is outrageously talented
Rashid - If not going to play in the subcontinent, he will never play
Broad
Wood - Skiddy action better suited than Finn to slower pitches
Anderson

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3039 on: August 22, 2015, 09:47:49 PM »
Bairstow shouldn't be walking there. This is a poor show.

I'm not watching but I see he was out caught, if he hit it and it was caught why on earth shouldn't he walk?

Because it hit Voges grill, which means it's not out and he's walked after being given out incorrectly in that fashion before.

It's one thing to criticise him for a poor shot but walking when he believes he is out doesn't warrant any criticism. I hate the way cricket has changed where a batsman can stand his ground and more or less say prove it even though they know they're out. It's cheating basically.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3040 on: August 22, 2015, 10:02:40 PM »
Why are some players wearing black armbands by the way?

I'm assuming that it's for Arthur Morris.

Either that or in remembrance of Adam Lyth's Test career

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3041 on: August 22, 2015, 10:58:22 PM »
Bairstow shouldn't be walking there. This is a poor show.

I'm not watching but I see he was out caught, if he hit it and it was caught why on earth shouldn't he walk?

Because it hit Voges grill, which means it's not out and he's walked after being given out incorrectly in that fashion before.

It's one thing to criticise him for a poor shot but walking when he believes he is out doesn't warrant any criticism. I hate the way cricket has changed where a batsman can stand his ground and more or less say prove it even though they know they're out. It's cheating basically.

I think Paul is fair enough in his point. Bairstow was given out like this before. Fair enough thinking he was out on that occasion, but surely numerous people at that time (not to mention the media) would have then clued him in on the rule. To just walk off when the exact same thing happens again is bloody stupid!! In no way does this excuse the umpire for being unaware of the rules however.

Not walking is cheating, I agree.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3042 on: August 23, 2015, 12:58:41 AM »
Bairstow shouldn't be walking there. This is a poor show.

I'm not watching but I see he was out caught, if he hit it and it was caught why on earth shouldn't he walk?

Because it hit Voges grill, which means it's not out and he's walked after being given out incorrectly in that fashion before.

It's one thing to criticise him for a poor shot but walking when he believes he is out doesn't warrant any criticism. I hate the way cricket has changed where a batsman can stand his ground and more or less say prove it even though they know they're out. It's cheating basically.

I think Paul is fair enough in his point. Bairstow was given out like this before. Fair enough thinking he was out on that occasion, but surely numerous people at that time (not to mention the media) would have then clued him in on the rule. To just walk off when the exact same thing happens again is bloody stupid!! In no way does this excuse the umpire for being unaware of the rules however.

Not walking is cheating, I agree.

We should bear in mind that posters are monitoring the game on different media. On the Sky coverage, Mikey Holding gave it the full gun and was very convincing.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3043 on: August 23, 2015, 03:28:16 PM »
Right, no London matches in the next Ashes please.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #3044 on: August 23, 2015, 04:15:23 PM »
Right, no London matches in the next Ashes please.

Or at least if there is a match at the Oval the England captain needs to be reminded that you always bat first there.

 


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