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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1725 on: June 18, 2015, 02:50:36 PM »
About ten years late but good to see England finally playing the modern one day cricket that all the other teams play.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1726 on: June 18, 2015, 03:08:32 PM »
Chris is probably partially right there, I still think the white balls nee to be reviewed though, 2 of them was supposed to help but really has the opposite effect of giving the batting side 2 balls that come of the bat well for and therefore doubling the early benefit.  That the main reason why I've long advocated the Hales approach at the top, come out and thrash at everything for 10-15 overs whilst the ball is new so the ones off the toe of the bat or outside edge still go flying to the rope.  Make no mistake we won the game yesterday because Hales put us totally in control after 12overs, from that point just batting sensibly and not losing wickets was going to be enough.  It meant Root could just play his natural game of picking the gaps and running singles and Morgan had a period where he could get used to the pitch and punish the bad deliveries and then once it all felt controlled he just opened up.

Back to a single ball, make it shinier and give it a more pronounced seam so things start to happen off the pitch and the gap closes as much as it needs to.  I still think 300-350 will be standard, that will always be the case from now on (unless they're playing on potato fields) because of the T20 mindset, if you get to 30-35 overs with wickets in hand you go big, that won't change, what might change is how many risks batsmen take in those 30-35 overs.

The boundaries also looked way in yesterday.  The 50 overs game was traditionally the containment of a test match into one day, but has now become an extended 20/20 game. 

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1727 on: June 18, 2015, 05:51:43 PM »
After watching Finn bowl the last couple of games I really think he is coming back to his best. He could have a massive future in the Test side if that's the case.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1728 on: June 19, 2015, 01:55:38 PM »
Jonny Bairstow called up to the one day squad as Buttler is doubtful. It's an ECB plan to wreck our title chances I tell you.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1729 on: June 19, 2015, 09:13:45 PM »
Hahahahahah!!!!!!  Foxes win at Bears!!!!!!!

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1730 on: June 19, 2015, 11:09:29 PM »
Hahahahahah!!!!!!  Foxes win at Bears!!!!!!!

And deservedly so.

As I have argued a number of times on the Bears thread, I am amazed that we have done as well as we have in the past in his form of the game, given that we make very few adjustments for the format.

Watching Boyd Rankin or Rikki Clarke run in to bowl with no slips is a very strange experience, verging on the surreal.  V. Chopra opening in this format is beyond the surreal into the bizarre.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1731 on: June 19, 2015, 11:20:47 PM »
The cricket thread has gone hopelessly off topic. That's not proper cricket, even though Yorkshire won tonight it's still not proper cricket!

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1732 on: June 19, 2015, 11:49:54 PM »
The cricket thread has gone hopelessly off topic. That's not proper cricket, even though Yorkshire won tonight it's still not proper cricket!

Amen, Brother Chris J.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1733 on: June 20, 2015, 09:39:07 AM »
Buttler's out so I assume Bairstow will get his chance.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1734 on: June 20, 2015, 10:35:05 AM »
Buttler's out so I assume Bairstow will get his chance.

Yes. Won the toss and are bowling. I think that is a good toss to win.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1735 on: June 20, 2015, 02:33:19 PM »
Good bowling performance in general but that was a terrible final over from Finn, I think 275 was about par and going like he did at the tail has let them pass that.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1736 on: June 20, 2015, 02:52:35 PM »
Terrible last over from Finn, but overall he's bowled beautifully in this series which is really encouraging.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1737 on: June 20, 2015, 03:42:51 PM »
Terrible last over from Finn, but overall he's bowled beautifully in this series which is really encouraging.

I agree, that's what made it so frustrating.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1738 on: June 20, 2015, 05:40:21 PM »
Duckworth Lewis confounds me. NZ scored at 5.66 an over yet England have been set 192 off 26 overs at 7.3 an over. How does that work then? Surely our target should be based around the NZ run rate? This target penalises a side batting second that has  bowled well and keeps the net run rate down.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1739 on: June 20, 2015, 05:49:59 PM »
The rate has to be higher because you've got 10 wickets which you can be more reckless with but the degree to which the rate increases doesn't fairly reflect the fact that we kept their score down and took regular wickets, closer to 175 I'd be ok with.  The worst thing is the pressure of the rate has got or top order chasing things and giving wickets away.  We're going to lose this series here on the back of 2 very harsh DL targets in games where we had got ourselves into a decent position to go for the win.

 


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