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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1230 on: May 21, 2015, 12:05:55 PM »
I agree with Vaughan England have a real habit of making a bad session into a terrible one.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1231 on: May 21, 2015, 12:06:19 PM »
I was surprised to hear on 5 Live this morning that England were favourites to win the series.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1232 on: May 21, 2015, 12:11:07 PM »
I was surprised to hear on 5 Live this morning that England were favourites to win the series.


Yeah me too. I can't understand any basis for that. It's not like conditions in NZ are that different from England and they're a better team.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1233 on: May 21, 2015, 12:17:21 PM »
God almighty you guys heard the reason Stokes came in ahead of Ali? Apparently Ali was batting in the nets and didn't have time to get his kit on. That is utterly embarrassing and shambolic. Should someone not have called him in once the 2nd or 3rd wicket went down?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1234 on: May 21, 2015, 12:19:25 PM »
God almighty you guys heard the reason Stokes came in ahead of Ali? Apparently Ali was batting in the nets and didn't have time to get his kit on. That is utterly embarrassing and shambolic. Should someone not have called him in once the 2nd or 3rd wicket went down?

It says something that a team captained by our top century-maker in history, and which includes our top wicket-taker as well, is in such disarray.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1235 on: May 21, 2015, 12:26:25 PM »
That is shambolic beyond belief.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1236 on: May 21, 2015, 12:29:14 PM »
God almighty you guys heard the reason Stokes came in ahead of Ali? Apparently Ali was batting in the nets and didn't have time to get his kit on. That is utterly embarrassing and shambolic. Should someone not have called him in once the 2nd or 3rd wicket went down?

I don't think that it's that much of an issue. Yes it's unusual and there seems to have been a breakdown in communication, but given that numbers 6 and 7 are virtually interchangeable, where is the issue?

Perhaps Ali should have thought twice about going for a net on the first morning of a Lords test in March when the ball is likely to be doing allsorts.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1237 on: May 21, 2015, 12:32:50 PM »
But it's not about individual decisions it's about leadership. If players shouldn't be going for a net on the first morning that should be communicated to all of them. If they're allowed to go then there should be sufficient communication in place to ensure you don't miss when you should be going out to bat.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1238 on: May 21, 2015, 12:37:28 PM »
Good for the neutral though! Quick start to the test, and to the series - first session has produced 4 wickets and 80 runs so far. Good stuff. For the neutral.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1239 on: May 21, 2015, 12:38:01 PM »
But it's not about individual decisions it's about leadership. If players shouldn't be going for a net on the first morning that should be communicated to all of them. If they're allowed to go then there should be sufficient communication in place to ensure you don't miss when you should be going out to bat.

It's as much about Ali and his professionalism as Cook and a lack of leadership.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1240 on: May 21, 2015, 12:40:34 PM »
Englands top order is going to be blown to shreds by the Aussies.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1241 on: May 21, 2015, 12:49:31 PM »
But it's not about individual decisions it's about leadership. If players shouldn't be going for a net on the first morning that should be communicated to all of them. If they're allowed to go then there should be sufficient communication in place to ensure you don't miss when you should be going out to bat.

It's as much about Ali and his professionalism as Cook and a lack of leadership.

I don't know how we can judge Ali without knowing the rules in place. Surely if a player isn't meant to go the nets on the first morning there must be a rule in place?

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1242 on: May 21, 2015, 12:50:09 PM »
Root is doing well and I think Stokes is doing the right thing in attacking.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1243 on: May 21, 2015, 01:08:02 PM »
But it's not about individual decisions it's about leadership. If players shouldn't be going for a net on the first morning that should be communicated to all of them. If they're allowed to go then there should be sufficient communication in place to ensure you don't miss when you should be going out to bat.

It's as much about Ali and his professionalism as Cook and a lack of leadership.

I don't know how we can judge Ali without knowing the rules in place. Surely if a player isn't meant to go the nets on the first morning there must be a rule in place?

That's just it we don't know the rules.

I would doubt that on day one of a test, as an opener and a captain that it is Cook's responsibility. It would possibly fall under the remit of an assistant coach, which at this moment we don't have.

A reasonable recovery led by Root and Stokes. We've a long way to get back into this test though.

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Re: The Cricket Thread 2015
« Reply #1244 on: May 21, 2015, 01:08:35 PM »
Good counter attack from Root and Stokes to get us to lunch. We need a lot more from them, Ali and Buttler though to get us up to a good score.

 


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