You must be a Pear PaulWinch again. His bowling in ODI does not work out even at a wicket a match.As for his batting he has one good innings in about every ten. All a matter of opinion of course
Quote from: pooligan on March 20, 2015, 10:20:41 AMYou must be a Pear PaulWinch again. His bowling in ODI does not work out even at a wicket a match.As for his batting he has one good innings in about every ten. All a matter of opinion of course We're talking about tests not ODI so his ODI record doesn't mean anything. You're judging him on his ODI performances from the last few months. In the Test side he's been a very good bowler, his batting hasn't really settled yet but I think he deserves the chance to stake a claim.
His bowling is average? If you look at his performances in the World Cup and in the Tests last summer I don't think anyone would call that average. Ali's bowling constantly gets overlooked, because he was perceived as a part timer when he came into the side. His record since he became an international completely go against that view. Also he is a free spirit batsman, which we need. He had a problem with the short ball, but I imagine he's worked to address it.
Regarding Ali,he was playing against a dreadful India side,who any cricket follower knows do not travel very well. Even England managed to thrash them.
Quote from: pooligan on March 20, 2015, 02:42:39 PMRegarding Ali,he was playing against a dreadful India side,who any cricket follower knows do not travel very well. Even England managed to thrash them.It was also the best spinner performance against India outside of India for about 30 years, by any nation. That's excellent bowling and he was rightly praised for it at the time.
Quote from: paul_e on March 20, 2015, 03:03:06 PMQuote from: pooligan on March 20, 2015, 02:42:39 PMRegarding Ali,he was playing against a dreadful India side,who any cricket follower knows do not travel very well. Even England managed to thrash them.It was also the best spinner performance against India outside of India for about 30 years, by any nation. That's excellent bowling and he was rightly praised for it at the time.Precisely it was outstanding bowling. Also I think his batting gets overlooked. He's generally asked to do a job of upping the tempo and plays unselfishly. He has the ability, his brilliant century against Sri Lanka shows that.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on March 20, 2015, 05:54:25 PMQuote from: paul_e on March 20, 2015, 03:03:06 PMQuote from: pooligan on March 20, 2015, 02:42:39 PMRegarding Ali,he was playing against a dreadful India side,who any cricket follower knows do not travel very well. Even England managed to thrash them.It was also the best spinner performance against India outside of India for about 30 years, by any nation. That's excellent bowling and he was rightly praised for it at the time.Precisely it was outstanding bowling. Also I think his batting gets overlooked. He's generally asked to do a job of upping the tempo and plays unselfishly. He has the ability, his brilliant century against Sri Lanka shows that. Yes his bowling performance against India was superb and hopefully he can build on that and become a good all-rounder. Producing top form, he could make that position at six his own, allowing four seamers to be picked as well. At the risk of repeating myself, I think Rashid will get a chance in the Carribean and if he does well, Ali might struggle to get back in
Quote from: tomd2103 on March 20, 2015, 06:42:04 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on March 20, 2015, 05:54:25 PMQuote from: paul_e on March 20, 2015, 03:03:06 PMQuote from: pooligan on March 20, 2015, 02:42:39 PMRegarding Ali,he was playing against a dreadful India side,who any cricket follower knows do not travel very well. Even England managed to thrash them.It was also the best spinner performance against India outside of India for about 30 years, by any nation. That's excellent bowling and he was rightly praised for it at the time.Precisely it was outstanding bowling. Also I think his batting gets overlooked. He's generally asked to do a job of upping the tempo and plays unselfishly. He has the ability, his brilliant century against Sri Lanka shows that. Yes his bowling performance against India was superb and hopefully he can build on that and become a good all-rounder. Producing top form, he could make that position at six his own, allowing four seamers to be picked as well. At the risk of repeating myself, I think Rashid will get a chance in the Carribean and if he does well, Ali might struggle to get back inGiven the lack of a clear opening partner for Cook I'd still like to see him get a run at the top of the order.