Aston Villa v Crystal Palace post match thread

[paul_e]

I think a few on here see young Grealish as the next coming. No doubt he has some skill say compared to Weimann, Agbonlahor,Westwood and Cleverley but unless he puts some weight on he will not cope at the top level. Man Utd managed to fill out Dea succesfully and that's
what we need to do with Jack. Otherwise he will become another Stephen Cooke and drift off the scene.

He is just another promising kid as far as I'm concerned at this present time.

comparing a light weight goalkeeper with a light weight attacking midfielder isn't really fair.  What Grealish needs to do is look at the likes of Xavi and Iniesta, both are small and fairly weak but both have a great knack of forcing defenders to go through them to get to the ball, the defener does it and they get a free kick, the defender backs of and they use their skill to make the most of the space.  For me Grealish is showing that he can take the kicks and keep going, now he needs to make sure that when someone does kick him it's a clear foul, that's when defenders will start showing him a bit more respect and he'll start to be able to get time on the ball.  He's a very impressive talent though, a goal or 2 or a couple of assists to show himself that he belongs is the next step in his development, the sooner they come the better, which is why i'd have started him in 1 of the last 2 games, he needs more than 20minute cameos now.

[IAmTheOneIanOlney]

I think a few on here see young Grealish as the next coming. No doubt he has some skill say compared to Weimann, Agbonlahor,Westwood and Cleverley but unless he puts some weight on he will not cope at the top level. Man Utd managed to fill out Dea succesfully and that's
what we need to do with Jack. Otherwise he will become another Stephen Cooke and drift off the scene.

He is just another promising kid as far as I'm concerned at this present time.

Sure, you can't say he's going to be top class yet but by the same token, you can't potentially write him off either - because he hasn't been given enough of a chance to show us either way. You'd understand it if form players were keeping him out, but it's nowhere near being the case.

[olaftab]

You mean in trouble like Spurs with Harry Kane?

He's only scored 4 in the league though (i think, i stand correct on that though). Four different players scored for them yesterday and they've got players like Eriksen who can win a game for them.

Yes Spurs do have some very good players but they were going nowhere till Kane started mixing things up.

[supertom]

I think a few on here see young Grealish as the next coming. No doubt he has some skill say compared to Weimann, Agbonlahor,Westwood and Cleverley but unless he puts some weight on he will not cope at the top level. Man Utd managed to fill out Dea succesfully and that's
what we need to do with Jack. Otherwise he will become another Stephen Cooke and drift off the scene.

He is just another promising kid as far as I'm concerned at this present time.

Sure, you can't say he's going to be top class yet but by the same token, you can't potentially write him off either - because he hasn't been given enough of a chance to show us either way. You'd understand it if form players were keeping him out, but it's nowhere near being the case.

He wins a lot of freekicks. He might not win as many if he puts on too much weight. I'd want to treat him more like a Silva or Carzola. Granted he's not gonna reach those levels, but he could be the equivilant for our level.

[olaftab]

He wins a lot of freekicks. He might not win as many if he puts on too much weight. I'd want to treat him more like a Silva or Carzola. Granted he's not gonna reach those levels, but he could be the equivilant for our level.

Why is it granted that he is not going reach that level?

[Clampy]

He wins a lot of freekicks. He might not win as many if he puts on too much weight. I'd want to treat him more like a Silva or Carzola. Granted he's not gonna reach those levels, but he could be the equivilant for our level.

Why is it granted that he is not going reach that level?

He could become even better. Who would have guessed how good Bale was going to be?

[supertom]

He wins a lot of freekicks. He might not win as many if he puts on too much weight. I'd want to treat him more like a Silva or Carzola. Granted he's not gonna reach those levels, but he could be the equivilant for our level.

Why is it granted that he is not going reach that level?

I think he's going to be very good. I would think he'll be very lucky indeed to reach the heights of a player like Silva as an example. It might happen, but...probably not. If he can have as much of an impact as Young or Milner he'll have done very well indeed.

[supertom]

He wins a lot of freekicks. He might not win as many if he puts on too much weight. I'd want to treat him more like a Silva or Carzola. Granted he's not gonna reach those levels, but he could be the equivilant for our level.

Why is it granted that he is not going reach that level?

He could become even better. Who would have guessed how good Bale was going to be?

That's a good point to be fair.
That said if he plays too much longer under Lambert, he's got no chance.

[PeterWithesShin]

You mean in trouble like Spurs with Harry Kane?

He's only scored 4 in the league though (i think, i stand correct on that though). Four different players scored for them yesterday and they've got players like Eriksen who can win a game for them.

Yes Spurs do have some very good players but they were going nowhere till Kane started mixing things up.

7 goals and 5 assists in 10 starts and a few sub appearances. Or to put it another way, he's been involved in scoring/creating more league goals than Aston Villa this season. All but 1 assist are since he scored against us 2 months ago.

[brian green]

I think Grealish has the potential to write his name in the Villa hall of fame.   

Old git alert.

I was lucky enough to see Wilf Mannion play and he had the same flat footed glide as Jack.   Wilf held his arms wide almost like he was walking a highwire and his hands drooped like he was trying to fly on broken wings.  He went through defences like a knife through butter.

Lambert does not have the originality to put on an impact player like Grealish at the start of a game and make the impact early.   Go at a team who come to pack their penalty box full tilt for the first twenty minutes and get the goal that makes them have to come out and play.   Impact in the last twenty minutes too often becomes, especially with Lambert in Bradford mode, the attempted storming of Rourke's Drift.

[PeterWithesShin]

Brian, i'm sure you've said recently that you didn't think Grealish would make it?

[ChicagoLion]

Grealish is one of a very few reasons to smile, amongst a blanket of Lambert induced mediocrity and tedium.

Give the kid a chance, it is not as if we have an abundance of flair in the team is it?

[brian green]

I have changed my mind.   I don't think I ever said he would not make it but I did say I had reservations about him and his maturity.   The last twenty minutes against Sunderland were electrifying and should have netted us at least two goals.   Then again yesterday he could have turned the game.   I am also on record as saying Benteke is the best centre forward I have ever seen in a Villa shirt.   If he carries on acting the goat I may well change my mind about him.

[Chris Smith]

I do have reservations about Grealish, he looks like a young kid playing with his big brothers. Coming on for 20 minutes against tiring defenders is not the same as starting a game. That said, unless he is given the chance we cannot tell how he will cope so I think he needs to play this weekend.

However, Villa fans booing Barry Bannan yesterday should act as a cautionary tale for those expecting the world.

[brian green]

To be fair Chris I think those of us applauding Barry considerably outnumbered the compulsive booers.

During the game I was also struck by the number of into touch or to the opposition Hollywood passes Sanchez made.   When Barry Bannan did that he received torrents of abuse, when Sanchez does it he gets MOTM (quite wrongly I thought because Jores Okore deserved it far more).