Delph's dismissal

[footyskillz]

Another ref might have given a yellow but Delph was taking a huge risk making such a rash challenge right in front of the referee. He's too much of a hot head.

Quite right .
However Clint hill QPR straight red which was yellow
Konchesky Leicester a straight red only had a yellow

Anyone who has seen this two tackles I like to know thoughts on them being as worse if not more than fabs.
I voted yellow for delph.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

McCarthy (Everton) yellow for similar to Delph.
Schneiderlin (S'ton) yellow for similar - later got 2nd yellow
Konchesky (Leic) yellow for identical tackle - later got 2nd yellow
Hill (QPR) yellow for reckless scissor tackle
Vertongen (Spuds) no card for similar on Van Persie
Gardner (WBA) no card for late hit on player's foot - ref gave free kick...and later nothing at all for a massive kick-out/swipe at Bojan leading up to Stoke's 1st goal

That looks pretty consistent to me - except for Delph's.

[Mike Jeffries]

There were several yellows given today for identical challenges it has to be said, that's the inconsistency that is so annoying! Having said that I think the fair assessment is hard to call so one to take on the chin I'm afraid (Delph isn't an established enough international yet, to get the free pass from refs ).

[mrfuse]

McCarthy (Everton) yellow for similar to Delph.
Schneiderlin (S'ton) yellow for similar - later got 2nd yellow
Konchesky (Leic) yellow for identical tackle - later got 2nd yellow
Hill (QPR) yellow for reckless scissor tackle
Vertongen (Spuds) no card for similar on Van Persie
Gardner (WBA) no card for late hit on player's foot - ref gave free kick...and later nothing at all for a massive kick-out/swipe at Bojan leading up to Stoke's 1st goal

That looks pretty consistent to me - except for Delph's.

Yep that's pretty much how I saw it after watching motd. I didn't think it was a red at the time and still don't.
I'm surprised how many Villa fans thought it was red and can only put it down to a dislike of Delph's contract issue.

[adrenachrome]

McCarthy (Everton) yellow for similar to Delph.
Schneiderlin (S'ton) yellow for similar - later got 2nd yellow
Konchesky (Leic) yellow for identical tackle - later got 2nd yellow
Hill (QPR) yellow for reckless scissor tackle
Vertongen (Spuds) no card for similar on Van Persie
Gardner (WBA) no card for late hit on player's foot - ref gave free kick...and later nothing at all for a massive kick-out/swipe at Bojan leading up to Stoke's 1st goal

That looks pretty consistent to me - except for Delph's.

Yep that's pretty much how I saw it after watching motd. I didn't think it was a red at the time and still don't.
I'm surprised how many Villa fans thought it was red and can only put it down to a dislike of Delph's contract issue.

Q.E.D.

Although I am not sure the contract issue is the only reason for Villa fans' opinions.  Fabian's previous for dodgy tackles probably plays in to the equation.

[supertom]

It was a little harsh as it was clumsy more than malicious, but if you go in studs up, a few yards from the ref, then you're asking for it. It was a nothing area of the pitch, the player was going nowhere, so it was a fucking stupid challenge to make. Some ref's may have given a yellow but honestly given Delph's penchant for fugly tackles, I think it's just caught up with him this time. I'd have expected him to have had a few more reds in his career by now, coming from the Paul Scholes academy of tackling (sadly not the Scholes academy of passing).

3 games out because of a challenge that didn't need to be made at all. Which will leave us going into (what should be) winnable games trying to cobble together a midfield.

I've no sympathy for Delph whatsoever with this because I think he dropped us in it for no good reason. But it's typical of him. It's also typical of the brainless way in which we seem to play as a football team. Short of Benteke and Sanchez (and Grealish, barely older than a glint in his daddy's eye, when he gets time), no one in midfield or attack seems to show much nous.

[Matt Collins]

It was harsh but it was stupid and it's the third such challenge he's made since returning from injury

Asking for trouble and I can't see it being overturned

[supertom]

It was harsh but it was stupid and it's the third such challenge he's made since returning from injury

Asking for trouble and I can't see it being overturned

I don't think there's a hope in hell they'll overturn that one. It's sadly, as someone mentioned above, a prime example of why Delph won't make it at a bigger club. Stuff like this will put off top 4. He might get a move to an also-ran like Spurs or Liverpool but ultimately within a year or two he'll end up back at a lower-mid-table club. If he could rake passes around the pitch and had the adhesive touch of Scholes then certain clubs could overlook the horror film challenges, but he can't.

[Malandro]

Poyet claims Delph was unlucky but then says he could have broken the players leg.
I think that says it all, it was dangerous, whether he intended it or not.

I don't have a problem with the red at all, some refs might not have but you can certainly say it meets the criteria for one.

[PaulWinch again]

I think it's an idiotic challenge, especially when you consider it's right in front of the referee.

[PaulWinch again]

Someone needs to get a grip of our players. We've had 4 straight reds in the last couple of months. Obviously Gabby's shouldn't have been given, but we need to stop making wreckless challenges.

[Lastfootstamper]

I've not seen it yet, waiting for it on MOTD now. But he must have been late, as the reason I missed it in real time was that I was explaining to the missus what "line it" means.

[rob_bridge]

Why did he play on the right and Cleverly on the left.

[Chris Smith]

Just watched MOTD, so first time to see it back, and can see why it was a red although the one by Clint Hill for QPR just before was equally as bad and only got a yellow. That inconsistency is why these things will always be disputed.

[LeeB]

I read with interest this morning Gary Monk giving Jonjo Shelvey a public shoeing for his silly and reckless yellow cards.

Maybe he can come and give a talk at Bodymoor Heath?