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Offline john e

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #90 on: December 29, 2014, 11:38:57 AM »
McCarthy (Everton) yellow for similar to Delph.
Schneiderlin (S'ton) yellow for similar - later got 2nd yellow
Konchesky (Leic) yellow for identical tackle - later got 2nd yellow
Hill (QPR) yellow for reckless scissor tackle
Vertongen (Spuds) no card for similar on Van Persie
Gardner (WBA) no card for late hit on player's foot - ref gave free kick...and later nothing at all for a massive kick-out/swipe at Bojan leading up to Stoke's 1st goal

That looks pretty consistent to me - except for Delph's.

Yep that's pretty much how I saw it after watching motd. I didn't think it was a red at the time and still don't.
I'm surprised how many Villa fans thought it was red and can only put it down to a dislike of Delph's contract issue.

Nothing to do with the contract issues, it's because we arnt Utd/chelski/'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans who only see things with one eye
Delph went into a tackle showing his studs two foot of the ground,so it's a red,
 some refs might have given yellow and he would have got lucky,but in this case he saw red, and only Delph is to blame for that
There's no excuses it was seen as a red card challenge, and to quote numerous other type challenges where they were deemed different is irelevent, because two wrongs never make a right

It's actually quite nice that 80% of us actually see it as it is and don't try and excuse what was a silly tackle made by a very good player


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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2014, 11:41:46 AM »
I hope the club fine Delph for his recklessness. Out months injured and now misses another 3 games for his stupidity.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #92 on: December 29, 2014, 11:42:56 AM »
Put it this way.... If it was the other way around we would be all shouting for a red card which it was. It was a stupid tackle and when you give the ref a chance to send you off you can't complain

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #93 on: December 29, 2014, 11:43:55 AM »
I assume he will miss Palace, Blackpool and Leicester?

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #94 on: December 29, 2014, 11:46:48 AM »
I assume he will miss Palace, Blackpool and Leicester?

Unless the F.A charge him for looking at the referee surprised at the decision. It wouldn't shock me in the slightest.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2014, 11:48:25 AM »
I assume he will miss Palace, Blackpool and Leicester?
On paper you look at Palace and Leicester and think that we've got to be winning 1 or both of those games. Delph out makes it a little bit more difficult, but we've really got to getting a bare minimum of 4 points in those two, because our inevitable tougher run is coming up shortly after. Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea.

Lambert might figure we're cushty now but in a months time we could be back in the shite again. We could really do without players getting themselves sent off.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2014, 12:18:37 PM »
Its not a red card for me.

I don't like the slow creep towards a no contact sport. Its late and clumsy, but its never a sending off.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2014, 12:42:04 PM »
Not a red for me. He didn't lead with his studs, or with 2 feet and wasn't high when he made contact with the player. I don't think he ever endangered the safety of his opponent, or was ever likely to cause him serious injury. I would also class it as more of a stretch than a lunge. It was reckless and clumsy, and was definitely a yellow card, but I'm very surprised that so many people think that it was, especially when the neutral pundits on MOTD also thought it was harsh.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #98 on: December 29, 2014, 12:50:11 PM »
Just watched MOTD, so first time to see it back, and can see why it was a red although the one by Clint Hill for QPR just before was equally as bad and only got a yellow. That inconsistency is why these things will always be disputed.

The fact that other refs got certain other decisions right or wrong doesn't make it any less of a red card.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #99 on: December 29, 2014, 12:50:36 PM »
I assume he will miss Palace, Blackpool and Leicester?

A cynic would suggest he has had a better offer elsewhere and got sent off so he is rested when he makes his debut somewhere else.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #100 on: December 29, 2014, 12:50:47 PM »
I'm all for cutting out violent play which risks injury and takes the skill out of the game; but the number of what I would call marginal yellows which stray over into reds, largely because refs are scared of getting a call from their leader for unnecessary tolerance and using their common sense, worries me. The losers at the end of the day are the fans who come to watch an eleven-a-side. Sending a man off usually results in a completely different game and ruins it for most. As far as I'm concerned, Delph wasn't being malicious, nor reckless - he was late and his foot came down on the other guy's foot. Painful? yes. A foul? Yes. A red card? In today's game, yes. Violent? Not really. Another reason for falling out of love with football.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #101 on: December 29, 2014, 12:53:37 PM »
Its not a red card for me.

I don't like the slow creep towards a no contact sport. Its late and clumsy, but its never a sending off.

I'm not sure how stamping your studs into an opponent's ankle could be anything other than 'serious foul play".  I agree that it wasn't done with malicious intent, but then it doesn't have to be.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #102 on: December 29, 2014, 01:02:35 PM »
I can't argue with the ref for giving a red card, saying that if it was against us and the ref gave a yellow that would have been fine too.
It's one of them silly tackles without the intent to hurt, just a shit clumsy tackle.

We're due some luck soon aren't we?
We had it v Leicester when they had a man sent off incorrectly

I thought that evened out the player that got yellow rather than red for that tackle on Westwood but if you want to see the negative side in everything, please carry on, it is your opinion.

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #103 on: December 29, 2014, 01:06:22 PM »
I would say we were on the harsh end against Leicester as Vardy's tackle was worse than any of the 4 reds that we have had this season. Konchesky getting sent in the last 15 minutes did not make up for losing a man for 6 weeks and them not getting the player sent off. Ditto the penalty appeal at Swansea etc, we are getting very, very little from the officials

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Re: Delph's dismissal
« Reply #104 on: December 29, 2014, 01:11:18 PM »
McCarthy (Everton) yellow for similar to Delph.
Schneiderlin (S'ton) yellow for similar - later got 2nd yellow
Konchesky (Leic) yellow for identical tackle - later got 2nd yellow
Hill (QPR) yellow for reckless scissor tackle
Vertongen (Spuds) no card for similar on Van Persie
Gardner (WBA) no card for late hit on player's foot - ref gave free kick...and later nothing at all for a massive kick-out/swipe at Bojan leading up to Stoke's 1st goal

That looks pretty consistent to me - except for Delph's.

Yep that's pretty much how I saw it after watching motd. I didn't think it was a red at the time and still don't.
I'm surprised how many Villa fans thought it was red and can only put it down to a dislike of Delph's contract issue.

Nothing to do with the contract issues, it's because we arnt Utd/chelski/'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans who only see things with one eye
Delph went into a tackle showing his studs two foot of the ground,so it's a red,
 some refs might have given yellow and he would have got lucky,but in this case he saw red, and only Delph is to blame for that
There's no excuses it was seen as a red card challenge, and to quote numerous other type challenges where they were deemed different is irelevent, because two wrongs never make a right

It's actually quite nice that 80% of us actually see it as it is and don't try and excuse what was a silly tackle made by a very good player


Not trying to excuse it john - it was a silly challenge to make in an area where little was at stake - trying to point out the inconsistency of refs' decisions which is bound to lead to players, fans and refs themselves not quite sure what's ok and what isn't.

 


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