Is celebrating an away goal among home fans ever acceptable?

[cdbearsfan]

Anyway, neutral end does sound really lame.

[Des Little]

By all means sit wherever you like. I'm not a hypocrite, I've been in the home end at away grounds loads of times - obviously when it's been the only option of seeing the game - but it's very irresponsible to put your kids in that situation. They're too young to understand the consequences of cheering when they really shouldn't. He knew full well what the outcome would be. His fault entirely.

[PeterWithesShin]

The neutral end works at Fulham because it's Fulham.

Presumably if we had a similar section then it just wouldn't work because we wouldn't be able to make it through the match without 'sticking one on' somebody?

More the fact that we don't really have neutrals at Villa Park. We're not in the World's most-visited tourist city, full of people who just want to see a football game. I expect the attraction factor has diminished since they stopped being in the Premier League, but even so.

We get a lot of day trippers. It wasn't until I was selling the fanzine and was stood outside the ground for 2 hours before KO that I realised just how many we do get.

[PeterWithesShin]

Definitely. We would have to call it the windmill end. You'd get a discount if you bring an iPad or a copy of Fever Pitch to get in.

Dave was being trite CD. But as you say, Fulham's match day attendance is made up of a lot tourists anyway, so with Fulham being one of the friendlier clubs, it makes sense. It might work at Arsenal, but none of the other London clubs.

I wouldn't be surprised if West Ham do a neutral section when they move.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I'd like to hear this radio phone call to be honest.

Not available on podcast?

He came across to me as a whinging, middle class, outraged Mr Angry - complaining that his day out at VP - where he fully expected HIS team to win (see his comments) - was spoilt because his team didn't win (had he promised his kids they would?). Their ejection provided him with the perfect opportunity to express his feelings covertly about being totally caught out at being a "fun" parent but actually having no idea what he was doing. And, of course, when it went tits up, it was all someone else's fault 

[Ads]

Definitely. We would have to call it the windmill end. You'd get a discount if you bring an iPad or a copy of Fever Pitch to get in.

Dave was being trite CD. But as you say, Fulham's match day attendance is made up of a lot tourists anyway, so with Fulham being one of the friendlier clubs, it makes sense. It might work at Arsenal, but none of the other London clubs.

I wouldn't be surprised if West Ham do a neutral section when they move.

You might be right. It will be interesting to see if their support becomes diluted and gentrified in what will be another lifeless bowl of a ground. I expect the place to be a big tourist attraction. Not sure how neutral the neutral end would be when them cants from Tottenham/Chelsea or sarf of the river, come to play though.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Anyway, neutral end does sound really lame.

All together now, whoever you support:

"We are the famous, the famous Neutral End..."

"Yippee Aye Ay, Yippee Aye Ooooooooo....Neutral Enders in the sky...."

[Richard E]

Anyway, neutral end does sound really lame.

All together now, whoever you support:

"We are the famous, the famous Neutral End..."

"Yippee Aye Ay, Yippee Aye Ooooooooo....Neutral Enders in the sky...."

'We're not singing anymore.'

[Witton Warrior]

A lot of this has to do with which clubs they support - I can remember sitting right next to Bilbao fans and the only thing that went between us was a carafe of wine and hearty handshakes.

Sat in the Trinity when Liverpool beat us 2-0 and there were two kids with their little red tops on under their anoraks. Their Dad was shitting it because he wasn't a footie fan - did we batter him and the kids? No - because when they scored the lad simply let out a little "yessss" and then sat still. The Dad and I exchanged glances and I smiled and we carried on, he even asked if I would keep an eye on them when he went to get drinks etc at half-time.

The same season there was trouble in the Lower Holte when that Manure fan got his daughter to take off her coat to reveal their shirt - when asked to cover up he began ranting that his daughter was being threatened until somebody pointed out it was about to become him being threatened. Sound familiar? The Red lads in front of us in the Holte on Saturday were informed it was in their best interests to watch from another part of the ground and they left - no violence just sensible action.

We have this discussion every year when we play Manure - the clubs rules say stay out of the home areas and our fan culture says stay out of the home areas - do they get the message?

[Lsvilla]

We have this discussion every year when we play Manure - the clubs rules say stay out of the home areas and our fan culture says stay out of the home areas - do they get the message?

This 1000%

[cdbearsfan]

I think there's an element of respect. If someone's come from Bilbao to support his team, you think fair enough.

However, we all know the sort of folk who claim to "support" Man U but have never been anywhere near the sullen, moody, one-horse cotton town, have thick Brummie accents and look down their nose at the idea of cheering for a team that isn't guaranteed a trophy at least every couple of seasons. We have no respect for them, nor should we.

I go to Villa Park to sit with like-minded misery-arses and don't expect to have my day spoiled by people enjoying themselves!

[silhillvilla]

I go to Villa Park to sit with like-minded misery-arses and don't expect to have my day spoiled by people enjoying themselves!

Agree.

[Kingthing]

Many years ago when our season tickets were in the upper Holte, Man City scored and 2 blokes jumped up a few row in front of us and looked like they were celebrating, I was pissed so took it upon myself to make everyone aware around me that they were city fans, after about 60 people unleashed all forms of abuse on the blokes the stewards moved in to cart them out, much to the joy of my ever increasing army of followers.

Much to my embarresment the two blokes produced their season tickets and began waving them in our direction, they were angry at the defensive error that caused the goal........well didn't I just die. 

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I go to Villa Park to sit with like-minded misery-arses and don't expect to have my day spoiled by people enjoying themselves!

Agree.

times 2!

[ciggiesnbeer]

Many years ago when our season tickets were in the upper Holte, Man City scored and 2 blokes jumped up a few row in front of us and looked like they were celebrating, I was pissed so took it upon myself to make everyone aware around me that they were city fans, after about 60 people unleashed all forms of abuse on the blokes the stewards moved in to cart them out, much to the joy of my ever increasing army of followers.

Much to my embarresment the two blokes produced their season tickets and began waving them in our direction, they were angry at the defensive error that caused the goal........well didn't I just die.

Better ten innocent men hang than one guilty go free!