Is celebrating an away goal among home fans ever acceptable?

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

This is exactly why I didn't take my neighbour's ManU supporting 9 year old....didn't tell him, thought about it, weighed it up, decided no.
My neighbour wouldn't take him because he's a twat - the neighbour, not the kid! - he just likes "the football" apparently.
In an attempt to make up for it I gave the boy my programme and told him that a lot of lovely Villa fans were singing a song for Ashley Young.

Heard the ManU dad on Sat night and thought he was a whinging wanker then...nice to see that, after reading these 5 pages, I am right.


Must break it to the other half!

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When Fulham play Chelsea, he whole end is given over to the away fans.

[hilts_coolerking]

I can't help but wonder why in a 21st century society we still have people who insist on getting violently upset over things as utterly meaningless as this.  If such a trivial thing infuriates you then it's probably best if you never leave the house.  Or turn on the TV.  Or read a newspaper. etc etc

[Ger Regan]

If I had kids I wouldn't bring them up to be glory-hunting filth. And I think if you tell a child "don't go mad or somebody might try to fight Daddy" most would have the common sense to behave. If they can't take in such a simple message, they shouldn't be brought to the game till they're older.

A 7 year old definitely has the capacity to forget, especially in the heat of the moment. I wouldn't disagree with you on waiting til they're older though, particularly if the seats are in the "wrong" end, but in any event i was originally taking issue with your assertion that they were going out of their way to annoy home fans, which is clearly nonsense.

[Stu]

Then their dad should've told them. It's not exactly difficult to say "don't jump up and down if a goal goes in for Manu or we might get chucked out". A poor father blaming the club for his stupidity.

I don't think you have kids do you.  No matter what you tell a seven year old, he/she will do one of two things: the complete opposite or ignore what you have said altogether.

Well in that case he should have known the likely outcome of celebrating a man u goal with his kids against the Villa, at Villa Park, in the Villa fans end. I'm struggling to have sympathy really. As others have said; he's either stupid not to realise the possible consequences of his actions, or he's arrogant and didn't give a fuck.

[Ger Regan]

I'm willing to wager that on this particularly instance it's stupidity.

[KevinGage]

Maybe there could be an area reserved for a neutral area, but currently there isn't. Tough cheese

Like Fulham have. It always struck me as a bit naff, having a "neutral" section.

There could be logic to it.

On the proviso that stewards can then take a flamethrower to any of the plastics caught in the Holte or Trinity.

[cdbearsfan]

I was talking about Man U fans generally. Many do go out of their way to act like twats. I qualified it in a subsequent post by saying that whether they are on a deliberate wind-up, or just genuinely caught up in the moment, their actions have the capacity to piss off home fans.

Catering to the whims and needs of regular customers should come well ahead of trying not to upset once-a-year attendees on the club's priority list.

As it does, so all is well.

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He called a radio show oblivious to his stupidity. Arrogance certainly comes into it.

The Noses are only getting 13k attendances because of whoppers like him.

[Ger Regan]

I was talking about Man U fans generally. Many do go out of their way to act like twats. I qualified it in a subsequent post by saying that whether they are on a deliberate wind-up, or just genuinely caught up in the moment, their actions have the capacity to piss off home fans.

Catering to the whims and needs of regular customers should come well ahead of trying not to upset once-a-year attendees on the club's priority list.

As it does, so all is well.

Fair enough, and I'd agree with you that they do have an enormous amount of arseholes that follow them.

[flybo]

half and half scarfs really get me had a fan close to me in the trinity lower with the manure badge on top i think a manure fan for def. hate half and half ban them

[ciggiesnbeer]

Noses fans are vastly superior to "brummie reds".

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Whenever I've been to Fulham in recent years the "away" area has always included a scattering of Fulham fans...so always assumed that the "neutral" area was in with/next to/part of the "away" area anyway.

I think we had more problems with Arse fans at VP this season than the plasticmancs on Saturday - a fair scattering of Arse colours/shirts and a very vociferous one in the box behind me, who continued to wear his Arse hat and even resorted to flicking the V and wanky action at us at the end of the game - no action from stewards at all!

[Dave]

I can't help but wonder why in a 21st century society we still have people who insist on getting violently upset over things as utterly meaningless as this.  If such a trivial thing infuriates you then it's probably best if you never leave the house.  Or turn on the TV.  Or read a newspaper. etc etc

I absolutely agree in this case.

But it's very much a grey area issue. I'd like to think that if it were seven year old kids getting excited then I would tut and shake my head rather than whinge to the stewards. If it were three or four blokes in their twenties then I could see myself getting upset to the point of getting a bit mouthy.

So I suppose it depends if you consider both the examples above as trivial. Are they the same thing? Presumably there is a line that is drawn somewhere.

[silhillvilla]

half and half scarfs really get me had a fan close to me in the trinity lower with the manure badge on top i think a manure fan for def. hate half and half ban them

I saw quite a few of them 50/50 scarfs saturday. They are repulsive.
Mind you we had some from the Uefa games - Ajax , hamburg etc that were quite nice .