Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread

[Rudy65]

I initially thought young was going to get the red. Unfortunately he is a cheating bastard and stayed down, where as Gabby got up. If Gabby had stayed down he may not have received the red.

Later on in the game Young was holding his face after a challenge from Benteke, but soon got on with it when the ref didnt react. Absolute arse.

Good point today.

Okore is class and Sanchez also looking good. Beneteke is a great outlet.

Get Width and some creativity in midfield and we would have a decent squad.

Utd got their tactics wrong. Rooney was too deep and whilst they had a lot of possession Guzan was untroubled. We had the better chances. Utd look average and a long way from Chelsea and man city. They were fortunate to beat Southampton and Liverpool

Enjoyable game. Well done Villa. All laugh at the baggies!

[Rudy Can't Fail]

No one's calling for medals, just a bit of credit when he gets things right.

I've given him credit, Lee, I just didn't see what his tactics were. Did you?

He matched up with a back three and also continued his newly discovered obsession with possession.

Seemed pretty clear to me what his tactics were regardless of whether they were right or wrong.

A back three, are you sure it wasn't a back five? 34% possession. Rejoice! 

[Rudy65]

No one's calling for medals, just a bit of credit when he gets things right.

I've given him credit, Lee, I just didn't see what his tactics were. Did you?

He matched up with a back three and also continued his newly discovered obsession with possession.

Seemed pretty clear to me what his tactics were regardless of whether they were right or wrong.

A back three, are you sure it wasn't a back five? 34% possession. Rejoice!

It was five at the back as opposed to two full backs who attack. Cissoko looks frightened every time he has possession in the opposition half. Ditto Lowton.

We gave up a lot of possession but overall we had the better chances. Good display today, a little more confidence and ability and we would have the basis of a decent mid table team

[pauliewalnuts]

Sanchez and Okore both strike me as technically excellent. Especially Sanchez.

If we are going to lose Vlaar and Delph, let's make sure we replace them with players who have a bit of technique rather than mediocre guff like Cleverley.

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Credit to Lambert today, we played well and contained them bar a 10 minute spell in the first half. Tactically he got it right matching them up and we pressed them lot better after about 15 minutes and started laying a glove on them.

Lowton was the weak link and have Young far too much space throughout. They created very little on balance, although it was disappointing that we were so deep after half time and it felt like a goal was coming.

The three centre halves played very well, while Delph in the second half really exposed how poor they are when you drive at them.

Weimann is a victim of his own hardwork as he looked out of place in the midfield, but he always works hard. He did a good job of keeping Rooney 40 yards from goal.

Interesting to see Rooney play so deep and also referee the game. The red card was a joke and Blackett proved there is no consistency.

Credit to the player for their response. There was a real indignation and we stepped it up. Credit again to Lambert for being tactically shrewd enough to switch the formation when they went to a flat back four. Clark had Young down up, while Bacuna nearly won us the game.

De ages left making more saves and I feel that 65% of the ball flatters them, largely made up for when we were down to ten men, as we continue to try and treat the ball with more respect.

On Carrick watch, I saw him get bullied and lose possession a few times. I also saw him foul Benteke, but still fail to stop the big man forcing a top save from De Gea. No surprise, he's a chronic plodder way out of his depth at centre half.

Pleased with a point, the performance and the character.

[Richard E]

The glass felt half full today. Far more positives than negatives. For all their possession Man U didn't create all that much and we had several decent chances as well as the goal. Defence looks way more solid this year. Sanchez is bedding in nicely now. Benteke is back. Good to see we kept trying to attack even after the sending off. Never a foul by Gabby let alone a red, clearly the free kick should have gone the other way.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I initially thought young was going to get the red. Unfortunately he is a cheating bastard and stayed down, where as Gabby got up. If Gabby had stayed down he may not have received the red.

Later on in the game Young was holding his face after a challenge from Benteke, but soon got on with it when the ref didnt react. Absolute arse.

Good point today.

Okore is class and Sanchez also looking good. Beneteke is a great outlet.

Get Width and some creativity in midfield and we would have a decent squad.

Utd got their tactics wrong. Rooney was too deep and whilst they had a lot of possession Guzan was untroubled. We had the better chances. Utd look average and a long way from Chelsea and man city. They were fortunate to beat Southampton and Liverpool

Enjoyable game. Well done Villa. All laugh at the baggies!

Agree with all of that Rudy - great post!


I also thought Young was going to get sent off...thought his "tackle" was way over the top and reckless - as did many others around me. MOTD might be worth a watch just to see it replayed 23 times!
Gabby's first ever sending-off and the red should be rescinded.

Great point in the circumstances.
UTV!

[Legion]

Credit to Lambert today, we played well and contained them bar a 10 minute spell in the first half. Tactically he got it right matching them up and we pressed them lot better after about 15 minutes and started laying a glove on them.

Lowton was the weak link and have Young far too much space throughout. They created very little on balance, although it was disappointing that we were so deep after half time and it felt like a goal was coming.

The three centre halves played very well, while Delph in the second half really exposed how poor they are when you drive at them.

Weimann is a victim of his own hardwork as he looked out of place in the midfield, but he always works hard. He did a good job of keeping Rooney 40 yards from goal.

Interesting to see Rooney play so deep and also referee the game. The red card was a joke and Blackett proved there is no consistency.

Credit to the player for their response. There was a real indignation and we stepped it up. Credit again to Lambert for being tactically shrewd enough to switch the formation when they went to a flat back four. Clark had Young down up, while Bacuna nearly won us the game.

De ages left making more saves and I feel that 65% of the ball flatters them, largely made up for when we were down to ten men, as we continue to try and treat the ball with more respect.

On Carrick watch, I saw him get bullied and lose possession a few times. I also saw him foul Benteke, but still fail to stop the big man forcing a top save from De Gea. No surprise, he's a chronic plodder way out of his depth at centre half.

Pleased with a point, the performance and the character.

A very good summation, although I didn't think Lowton was that bad.

[Toronto Villa]

It's going to take a bit of time for this new way of playing to be perfected. It's going to take a bit of investment too by bringing in players specific to this system and tactic. It doesn't help matters getting players sent off because it naturally took us away from the intent of playing a certain way. I am starting to believe that if Lambert sticks to this, we as Villa fans, who in the main are quite realistic about our current place in the game, will give the manager time to make it work and get the results. The one thing we have all hated as part of losing is in how we lost. Now it appears we are dedicating ourselves to a better style and in time we will give ourselves more chances to win because we have kept the ball more often.

There is a long, long way to go and bumps will be experienced along the way but at least it is more attractive to the eye than almost all of the last 18 months or so.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Lowton was the weak link and have Young far too much space throughout. They created very little on balance, although it was disappointing that we were so deep after half time and it felt like a goal was coming.

Agree with all your positives and yeah Lowton needs to go. Sorry to say but he really sticks out as not good enough for this league. I would sooner see Bacuna play back there if Hutton is out again. After his decent first season for whatever reason Lowton has regressed to being a League One player. Sad

[paulcomben]

Paul Lambert is clearly shit at hiring & delegating to coaches & in direct contact with the players does actually know what he is doing. From the evidence.

[kippaxvilla2]

Lambert said the same thing about young telling Guzan he thought he'd fouled Gabby not the other way round.  I will be amazed if it isn't rescinded.

[silhillvilla]

Replace lowton with Hutton and all of a sudden the back 5 with Delph and Sanchez sat in front is starting to look solid as a foundation to build on .

[danno]

Traffic horrendous so only just back. Good performance and a great hard-earned point, in spite of the best efforts of Manchester's finest - Mr L Mason. When I saw the red card go up I actually cheered because I presumed Young had been sent off and he'd stayed down pretending to be injured to try and avoid it (or to try and get Gabby sent off instead of himself). I was literally speechless when it turned out to be Gabby sent off - his first ever red card in the league apparently.

Exactly the same for me, should have known better really, especially after seeing Suralex arrive at the ground before I went in.

Proud that we kept our composure and tried even harder afterwards.

Was surprised Rooney had so much space, but as has been said he didn't do much with it.

[pauliewalnuts]

Lowton was the weak link and have Young far too much space throughout. They created very little on balance, although it was disappointing that we were so deep after half time and it felt like a goal was coming.

Agree with all your positives and yeah Lowton needs to go. Sorry to say but he really sticks out as not good enough for this league. I would sooner see Bacuna play back there if Hutton is out again. After his decent first season for whatever reason Lowton has regressed to being a League One player. Sad

I caught the end of a stream from an Irish broadcaster and they showed a few clips highlighting how off the pace Lowton was. I'm inclined to agree. I don't think he's good enough.